Here's a war/protest song of sorts

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The title of the song is Above The Law

I'm not necessarily against the war - just G.W.B's
heavy-handed tactics.
I wrote this song right after 9/11. It's not a diatribe,
just some subtle observations


 
Im PRO GW/war......you should make the vocals intelligible if you have a message to convey.I cant understand a thing you
re saying through that warbled effect.....not a bad little groove though.

Go U.S.A!:)
 
Here's the lyrics - if you can't hear wtf I'm saying:

We'd rather fight than be wrong
Our thoughts go out to the families

9/11 spawned big brother
We'll heed him like no other
He shall be ordained above the law

We view the land from afar
Our hearts are numb to the tragedies

9/11 ....

Another front on the right
A new assault on our liberties

9/11 ...
 
DimChandeliers said:
Here's the lyrics - if you can't hear wtf I'm saying:
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I dont guess anyone else can tell what the fuck you are saying either.:eek:

Dont take this the wrong way but your voice sounds like dog shit man.
 
lol.... dang.... :eek: :D


you know, Kramer... you really should learn to just speak your mind... ;) :p


As for the tune... well... I don't agree with your misguided, uninformed politics.. :D :p but the playing was pretty good. The recording itself has some issues. The vocals are a little too muffled. The gits sound OK (playing is pretty tight)... but you encoded the MP3 at 128K, so you can hear a distinct "digital" quality to this whole recording (especially in the drums). You might wanna try using VBR for your MP3s. The drums sound pretty decent too... (other than the "digital" sound). The lead at 3:03 should be brought forward a little more.. it sounds like it's in another "room" than the rest of the recording.

Overall, thought... pretty good recording... but I think encoding the MP3 with VBR will give you a noticable improvement. (I'd have a better idea of the actual recording quality when I hear it at a higher bit rate)

WATYF
 
Re: your voice sounds like dog shit

Yeah, well now I now the "Dog Shit" preset works on my AutoTune.

Re:WATYF

Thanks.
What's VBR? 'cause that digital crap on the drums is driving me up a wall. You're right about the solo - I used Revalver on it. I should have removed the Room Simulator.

And I thought musicians tended to lean towards the left.
 
DimChandeliers said:
Re: your voice sounds like dog shit

Yeah, well now I now the "Dog Shit" preset works on my AutoTune.

Re:WATYF

Thanks.
What's VBR? 'cause that digital crap on the drums is driving me up a wall. You're right about the solo - I used Revalver on it. I should have removed the Room Simulator.

And I thought musicians tended to lean towards the left.
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LMAO!If that was autontune then their is no hope dude.LMAO!

What would make you think that musicians leaned to the left?Thats a crock of shit.A few do as do a few people in all walks of life.
 
I think parts of the song have a real cool groove. I liked the little guitar riff. I think you could get a little warmer tone to it - as is it was a bit on the abrasive side. Just a bit.

The lyrics are tough to understand (I have to agree with what's been said). IMO it's an over-application of effects. Sounds like you were going for a "doubled" sound without actually doubling them (just a guess on my part). To me there's no substitute for real doubling.

In a song like this, it's important to be able to make out the lyrics. That way the people who agree with you will say, "Yeah, tell it man," and you'll piss off everyone who disagrees with you (I'm further guessing that's what you want). :) Actually, it's probably more accurate to say you want them to change their minds. If that's the case, they won't do it if they can't understand you.

Some pitchiness to them too.

I'd say to stay with it. Retrack the vox to fix the pitch issues. (I'm purposely not mentioning AutoTune because I don't want to start two flame wars in the same thread) Oh wait, I just mentioned it didn't I? :D Double them if you want - I think that would work well on a song like this. But really double them. As for effects, reverb would be your best bet.

You'll get there.

Just my thoughts...
 
Re: Autotune

I don't really have autotune.
I should have narrowed down the 'musicians' to folk, punk/alt rock,etc.
I doubt if those redneck session players in Nashville lean towards the left.

Re: TripleM

Thanks Trip,

I was going for the doulbling effect on the vocals. When you say doubling do you mean singing it twice (guess that would be overdub)?
Is doubling done with a particular technique or with a doubling effect?
 
Doubling (as I mean it anyway) is done by singing it twice. It takes some practice and a bunch of takes (or punch ins). You gotta get each track synched up with one another. But the effort is worth it IMO.

Give it a try and see what happens.
 
sounds like bad encoding.. I would try a different encoder.. You should be able to get away with 128 and still have it sound halfway decent.. the lyrics are tough to make out, and I hear some timing issues with the instruments.. My main complaint with this tune is the vocals.. Maybe try a dryer sound.. A tighter bass line would help too.. things sound a bit loose at times.. the song is decent, but somehow is not coming together as tightly as it should, and therefore lacks impact..

I won't comment on lyrical content, but you should try to make them more easily understood..
 
Sounds like you hit a nerve man....jesus. I think 9/11 songs stir up too much crap, nevermind the backhands you got up top. Lyrics do not have to be discernable to be good IMO. I like the effect actually, I just don't think it goes with the song very well. You be a newbie man, and I don't know how much experience you have at this, if it's a first attempt.....you're doing alright in my book. If not, then maybe its the sound you are going for. I do hear a some timing issues too......but I'm not pro, so what do I know?
 
The main guitar riff is pretty cool, and though it does sound very raw this ain't a bad thing in a protest song. There were some timing issues on the bass, especially at the start before the drums kicked in. Talking of drums, they sounded like they had a slap-back reverb on them which didn't help their tone much, but they were well played. However, the chorus-type effect on your voice does it zero favours, and it doesn't work for me. I think if you're doing a protest song the vocals should be clear and resonate - your sounds muddy and far too processed. Lead guitar is pretty cool, though. Overall it does sound kinda sloppy, but it has the basis of a good groove :)
 
Yes the drums were very well played - by someone.
They are actually loops from an Acid CD. I do a lot of cut-and-paste to get as much of a live feel as possible.
 
Nice job on the ACID Drums.Weak guitars but the sound of the lead was cool.No bottom to the mix.Dumb words,sorry.:rolleyes:



Kramer is a funny bitch.:o(LMFAO) ...




...but I feel your pain when it comes to vox.
 
Damn... I was hoping this song was buried on page 12 by now.

Yes, I used a cheap mp3 encoder. My newer posts at NowhereRadio are all newly encoded mp3s. I've got 30 free mp3 rips with Burning Nero :) I havent re-done this particular song.
I've been writing and recording songs for years - mostly instrumentals (now you know why). I recorded this song in Jan. 2002. It's the first song I ever recorded with CEP/Acid, everything was tape up until then. I thought the chorus effect on the vox sounded cool - you know how it is - a new effect sounds cool at first...
I'm gonna have to try doubling the vox, like TripleM suggested, or I'll have to stick to my half-spoken, Lou Reed style of singing.
Thanks for the comments everyone. How do they say it these days? - It's all good- :)
 
whuts a diatribe? is that like from south america near the big river?

downloading is taking forever but coming.

Oh, I got "Dennis (Kramer ) Miller" a blind date with a deer dog named "ol Shep"... I`ll try to get pictures for everyone. :)
 
I hear it wi the drums a little off center, but not sounding bad, jus needing a little more ass in the low end and power in the center. The bass could be more dominant and centered more. That spot where you stop and then stop again on the bass, Id let it play through the first and then stop on the second one. Vocals need bigger and brighter. That mp3 converter could be robbing you too. There are several free out there. I use Winlame. Song could be a kickin tune with some polish.
 
You've got a lot of different strings on that guitar of yours. This song's different than the other ones of yours I've listened to, and it sounds good too.

It reminds me of Velvet Underground LOL.

I hardly know you, but what I'd say to a friend is this: avoid topical songs. Issues come and issues go, but art's more about eternal concerns, right?

I'm not criticizing your song because I don't like it. I like it, plus I'm against Bush's very stupid war in Iraq. But unless you really, *really* REALLY know what you're doing, it's difficult to do topical stuff in a way that lasts.

You've got a really good musical thing going on there. Keep going, keep doing it.

Pay more attention to singing and vocals. That's where the money is.
 
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