Help!

[presdaddy]

Hey guys... I'm pretty new to recording and my friends and I were hoping to record a few songs as best as possible (going for a similar feel in production to myspace.com/kaddisfly). I currently own 1 sm57, 1 Audix I-5, and 1 Sterling ST55. Recording vox, drums, amps, and going direct with bass, what microphones should I use for which purpose? What other mics should I buy to get the job done? ( I'm hoping to not spend more than $500 ). Thanks!!

 

[RightOnMusic]

live or 1atatime?

 

[presdaddy]

one at a time, im using myfirepod

 

[timboZ]

If the Sterling ST55 is the same as the GroveTubes GT-55 it is a great vocal mic.

 

[daav]

The SM57 and I-5 both will do well on snare and your guitar cabs, you can switch them back and forth and pick your prefernce. It is worth picking up somehting for the bass drum and if you decide to mic the bass cab (i know you said youwere going direct, but it cqan't hurt to try out options). I have a shure beta52 which is great for that.
and/or something like a EV RE20/27 can be a bass mic, vocal mic, jsut about whatever you need for a few bucks more.

Pick up a couple of overheads for the drums that can double as acoustic mics, on a budget , i would pick up a pair of MSH-01 or MXL 603s. I have both and use the MSH-01s more than the 603s these days.

For track-by track, the basic mic kit would be the 57 and/or i-5 (snare and tom(s) or use two mics on snare (over under with phase on bottom fliupped)), a kick mic like the beta52 of D112, and the overhead mics. If you don;t already have a vocal mic, that would be the next option, but the EV RE20 would be versitile for both kick and vocals if it suits the voice.
Beyond that set up you are really talking about flavors. What is your budget and what are you running threse through?

Dave

 

[zbert]

I'll second the MSH mics for overheads. They are also very good on acoustic guitar. If you want to go on the real cheap look for an old AT pro25 mic for the kick. You can find them on ebay pretty cheap and they do a real decent job.

 

[presdaddy]

thanks for this!! ill definately check those out.

id like to spend as much as i can, unfortunately i dont see myself spending more than 500. ive just been running it through the firepod. any other suggestions?

 

[bodaddy]

If you can swing Rode NT5's, I highly recomend them. But yes, a good set of overheads and a good kick for drums goes a long way if done right. I really like seperate hat and snare tracks to. You may look at a decent little preamp for vocals as well. Antares mic modeler works wonders too when you can't afford a bunch of expensive mics.

 

[presdaddy]

I've never even heard of MSH- and the prices are soo low!

EDIT: do you recommend the MSH 2 for Toms?

 

[presdaddy]

Also, it is impractical to use teh Sterling ST55 on part of the drum set, right? If not, what can I use it for? (I'm trying to mic as much as possible with what I have already haha)

 

[daav]

Also, it is impractical to use teh Sterling ST55 on part of the drum set, right? If not, what can I use it for? (I'm trying to mic as much as possible with what I have already haha)

I''d stick to four mics on drums, or try the infamous 3 mic techinque, i forget the person who first psoted, but look in the drum forum for the thread about 47 pages long...

Either way, kick, snare and 2 overheads is more than sufficient for a good drum recording, and once you master that ( i haven't) you can get complicated if you
I don;t know the ST55, but here is some general advice, find things that mic sounds great on, and use it then, don't try to use as a value-proposition.

daav

 

[timboZ]

I don;t know the ST55, but here is some general advice, find things that mic sounds great on, and use it then, don't try to use as a value-proposition.

The ST55 is the same mic as the Grove-Tubes GT-55.
It is a great vocal mic. It has a nice warm sound to it. Very similar to an oktava MK-319.