Help with Live Synth Pro

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Ok, here's yet another probably silly problem (maybe not) I just ran into. I'm working on a new project, my first whole album, which is a conceptual album that I'm dedicating a bunch of time into a want to end up with something very well done. So I want to "tune" every little detail the best that I can. In doing so, there's a song that uses a piano for most of the song. I have a rackmountable midi module (Roland MGS-64) but it's piano sound doesn't make me too happy. I have a SB card so I've been playing around with SF's and have found a couple of piano sounds that I find to be pretty cool; but still I wasn't happy. This piano has to sound VERY REAL... so as per Moskus, I found this great piano, I foget where he told me to download it from, but this SF2 is about 136 MB so my SB was crashing when I loaded it. I then thought, ok, I'll cough up the 50 bucks for Live Synth Pro (and little by little I'll find the SB to be less important in my studio).

So here's the deal, I downloaded the Live Synth upgrade installed it, loaded that big fat piano font, which sounds quite good... I don't know if I'm fully pleased just yet, and then I recorded a piano part, but when I play back, it appears to only be playing one octave... and the rest, even though it was recorded, doesn't sound... I thought it might be a problem with the sound font, not the live synth, so I tried another piano soundfont, and the same thing happened. I only get playback in one octave... but the other stuff is there... the very weird thing is that if I transpose the midi say, 2 octaves, I get playback on only 1 octave but now it's transposed 2 octaves higher.

Anybody care to give this problem a whack??!!!

Carlos
 
Yo Carlos, looks like you have to set the Polyphony to some higher value. I didn't remember where to find it (not at my DAW by now), but I'm sure there's must be something in Livesynth control panel that allows you to set more poliphony eg. 128 will be good. Be very carefull with Sustain Pedal (CC 64) as it can caused your track "out of notes". Use Track Event View to edit it when necessary...

;)
Jaymz
 
James, thanks for the help. I've already set the polyphony to the max and nothing. I created a new project in Sonar; inserted only 2 tracks, an audio and a midi... in the audio I only selected the FX>>DXi>> Live Syhth Pro>> a very small SF2 (natural oboe)
In the midi track I selected IN>> Midi Omni OUT>> 5Live Synth Pro Channel>>1 Live Synth Pro SE Bnk>> Oboe PCH>> oboe and hit record... i played an easy melody with no polyphony... just one note at a time... throughout the register of the oboe... then when I play back only a few notes actually produce sound...

VERY WEIRD!!!!!!!!! HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!

Carlos
 
I've had similiar problem regarding Livesynth. Have e look...

https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84703

I dunno, but I prefer the "old ways" of attaching the SF2 to SB Live! rather than Livesynth Pro.

But I can't set my memory usage more than 128MB for soundfonts, Jaymz...

I know, and these may be an answer...

Click this link number one...

...and this is number two...

Just FYI, I -personally- don't think Livesynth is perfect by now. It still has it's long way to replace the old way of using SF2. Althought so many people happy with it, I don't think it's perfect. Just my personal oppinion...
 
Thanks Jaymz... I restarted twice but nothing... I'll give those threads a read but for now it seems like I just gave away 50 bucks and I'll have to go back to my old SB Live card for my soundfonts.

Carlos
 
Well, think positive Carlos, by buying it, it support the manufacturer to develop the product. And may be someday they will release patch / upgrade to fix the problem. As registered legal purchaser, you probably will get 'em for free. BTW, I've used the 136MB piano sound you mentioned, and I do have similiar problem. I think LivesynthPro will only allows you to use well programmed SF2 files. And unfortunatelly, they mostly NOT available for free. I mean, the 136MB (along with it's sisters 72MB & 256MB version) sounds promising (file size point of view). But you must use it with salt & grain... eerrr... you know what I'm talking about, eh ?

And...

One more thing... Try not to listen to it when it's still in MIDI form. Just have a try... bounce 'em to audio track, and listen to the result. Inform us what you got...

;)
Jaymz
 
Well, I've tried most of the Sound fonts that I have with the Live Synth Pro, even some I did myself using wavs I recorded and then playing around with Vienna SF editor. Every single SF2 that I used with Live Synth had problems!!! :( The funny thing is that it loads the SF2 without a problem and plays perfectly, records perfectly but then, during playback, I only hear a few of the notes, not all of them. Really weird and quite frustrating. BTW, one question, how do I bounce a SF2 to Wav without playing back the whole thing??!!!

Carlos
 
Ok, I bounced to track and now it sounds better, still, for some reason it sounds a little different than the way it sounded when I played it. But good enough. Thanks for the help Jaymz.

Carlos
 
Thing comes up in my mind...

Can you go Options --> Global --> MIDI tab and set the playback buffer to higher value. I really mean it alot higher... If I'm not mistaken, it set default as 500ms. Set it to 1000, 2000, or even 4000. Just play around with it, and see if this could help the MIDI playback.

;)
Jaymz
 
WOW!!!!!!! That was it!!! I had it set for 20 ms!! I went to 1000 and that fixed that!!! Thanks alot Jaymz!!!
What would the world be without this BBS???!!!

Carlos
 
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