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I Just Purchased This The Other Day, Hooked It Up, Installed The Drivers Etc... Now, The Only Way I'm Getting Soundback Is When I Go From The Tape In (On My Behringer UB1204 Mixer) To The Audio Out's On The Card... Any Other Way I Get No Soundback... What The Main Concern Is... I Have Fooled With This Thing For About 4 Hours Now, And I Cant Get It To Pick Up Any Vocals... I've Checked All The Settings On My Windows Sound Master... Etc... Media Devices, Cool Edit (Which I'm Using To Record) And I Cant Get Anything...

Would Anyone Be Kind Enough To Offer Some Suggestion To What I Might Be Doing Wrong?
 
The first thing you are doing wrong is capitalizing every word you type. That's a new one on me, usually folks use ALL CAPS, or no caps, or no punctuation, or all or no caps in conjunction with no puncutation...

It does not make your post distinctive, just harder to read.

Next, I don't understand what your problem really is.

" The Only Way I'm Getting Soundback Is When I Go From The Tape In (On My Behringer UB1204 Mixer) To The Audio Out's On The Card... Any Other Way I Get No Soundback..."

What sound are you talking about? Is the source of the sound something on the computer that you are playing? Or is it an instrument or microphone that you have connected to the mixer? (While I'm picking on your language usage, "soundback" is not a word, though it might make a great name for a rock and roll band.)

You also write, "I Have Fooled With This Thing For About 4 Hours Now, And I Cant Get It To Pick Up Any Vocals... I've Checked All The Settings On My Windows Sound Master... Etc... Media Devices, Cool Edit (Which I'm Using To Record) And I Cant Get Anything..."

You do not tell us how you have the mixer or any other sound sources hooked to the Audiophile. This is crucial information before anyone can speculate reasonably about what you might be doing wrong.
 
Ok, Excuse The Way I Type... It Just Became A Habit.

Also, I'm New To This... As You Can Tell... And I'm Not Sure Of The Proper Lingo... However...

I Have The R/L RCA Jacks Going From The Tape In On My Behringer Mixer, To The Audio Outs On The Soundcard...

My Problem Is, I Cant Get Any Of My Vocals To Record In Cool Edit.

And What I Meant By Soundback Is... I Can Play My Music Files Off Of My Computer Without Any Problems, But I Cant Get My Micorphone To Pick Up Anything...

So, All I Have Connceted Is The RCA Jack To The Audiopile... Which I Believe Is All I Need, Although I Could Be Wrong.
 
i wONDER hOW sOMEONE wOULD pICK uP a hABIT lIKE tHAT...

vERY oDD iNDEED...
 
Doest It Really Matter How I Type? I'm Just Trying To Get Some Advice As To Why This Card Isnt Picking Up My Vocals...
 
I'm not sure what's going on here either.

I'm guessing that you can't hear your inputs to the mixer and can't get them to record in Cool Edit (is it the multitrack version, CEP, you have?)

How is the output of the mixer getting to the card analog rca inputs for recording?

As for playback, make sure the Delta Panels Patchbay is connecting Analog out 1/2 to H/W out .
Or, have the patchbay feeding the Monitor mixer to the H/W out 1/2. Connect the analog outs to your monitors, not the mixer. Use the mute/solo and faders in the Delta monitor mixer to hear your ins and outs.

In Cool Edit, make sure each track has the right Device Options settings. Record your mixers outputs using left, right or stereo from the inputs 1/2 (or 3/4 for the s/pdif digital input). Have the Tracks outputs set for the outputs 1/2. Just right click on a track (in the multitrack view) to see the choices for playback and record devices per track.
 
RedIye said:
Doest It Really Matter How I Type? I'm Just Trying To Get Some Advice As To Why This Card Isnt Picking Up My Vocals...
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Actually, it does.

Its rude and makes you come off as an idiot who is trying to be "different".

It is also a total pain to read.
 
Ok, So I'm An Idiot Now For The Way That I Type? No One Else Has A Problem Reading It.

Is this better though? Sheesh... So much grief over a capital letter.

And Jim Y... I NOW have tape in (on the mixer) going to audio out on the card, and tape out to audio in... i phoned the store i bought it from, and they suggested i needed to do that. However, I'm going to try your suggestions now, I prey that it works.

Thanks in advance.
 
Ok, I just confused the hell out of myself... Let me attempt to start over...

I have tape in (on the mixer) going to audio out on the card, and tape out (on the mixer) going to audio in on the card. Now, thats EVERYTHING I have connceted to the card and the mixer.

In the delta console, I have all my masters, wave out's etc turned up and off mute. I also have stereo link selected on them. As for patchbay router, on HW Out 1/2... I have monitor mixer selcted. And on H/W Out S/PDIF... I Have monitor mixer selected.

In Cool Edit (actualy Adobe Audition) I have all of the device settings pointed towards the M-Audio Multichannel. The MIDI output is selected to Delta AP MIDI (Aswell as the In).

I've triple checked to make sure all of my connections are secure, that i dont have anything on mute, and that the levels are according... I just dont get ANY response from the mic.


Also, in the Delta console... My Master Clock is set to "internal" and the sample rate is @44.1hz and its not locked. My S/PDIF settings are set to "consumer" aswell.
 
I have tape in (on the mixer) going to audio out on the card, and tape out (on the mixer) going to audio in on the card. Now, thats EVERYTHING I have connceted to the card and the mixer.
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If that is truly EVERYTHING that you have connected, then the mystery of why you get no response from the mic is solved.

I'm sure you really didn't mean that. So let's try again: where's the mic plugged in? Also, what kind of mic is it?

Doest It Really Matter How I Type?...

Sheesh... So much grief over a capital letter.
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Well, if you walked into a room and started shouting, would you expect that to go uncommented upon? No, people would very quickly say, "why are you yelling?"

The conventions of verbal and written communication exist for very good reasons -- they help smooth communication, not obscure it. Why would you want to be purposefully obscure, especially when you're asking a bunch of folks to help you?
 
Ah... Do you really think I came here to obscure any sort of conversation? Anyways...

I have the mic plugged into channel 1 on my mixer... it's a MXL 2001 Condenser. I have phantom power, I have it turned on, I have the levels turned up. Still not getting anything though...
 
I don't know your mixer, but I greatly suspect you cannot send to tape out at the same time as monitoring the tape in. Selecting tape in usually deselects anything in the rest of the mixer - might not, but since you don't hear anything...

Do you have a monitor speaker/amp set up, or are you relying on headphones in the mixer?

I think the heart of the problem is the facilities of your mixer. There are several ways it can be done with any mixer, but ideally, a small recording mixer has an extra stereo send selectable from any input channel. Such mixers either have an extra out bus called ALT or SUB or ControlRoom, which feeds the 2 ins of the sound card. Lacking this, you can use pre-fader AUX sends - but many mixers only have one prefader AUX.
Actually, Spirit have finally done the obvious and put little red RECORD send channel buttons on a new range of budget mixers, but that doesn't help now ;)

Never mind CoolEdit for now, I sugest you try a little test...

Plug a mic into your mixer, turn it's channel fader down, input gain up and the AUX send up. Cable the AUX out to any of the cards inputs (check this with the cards manual, it's easy to mixup the in and out RCAs. If the mic is a Condenser - you may have to switch Phanton Power (48volt) onto its channel.

Open the Delta mixer. You should definately see the 1/2 input meter responding as you talk into the mic, as well as the Master output. With the Patchbay setting you have (monitor mix to HW 1/2) , connect both card outs to a stereo input of the mixer.
With this stereo channels fader turned up, you should now be able hear the microphone in your headphones coming back from the soundcard. If that works, try it again using the Tape In.

Note - the mixers PFL buttons effectively (usually - I don't know your model) Solo channels to the headphone monitor. So watch for that when using the Phones.

When you prove the link between mixer and card CAN work, then it's time to try recording something. Well actually, the next step is to see if you can hear a sound file playing from CoolEdit.
 
Well, the mic and the mixer work.... I can see the levels move on the mixer when I talk into the mic... The mic works.

I just cant seem to get it going in the Patchbay/Router... I dont know if I'm not setting something properly or what... But the mic works through the mixer, just wont show anything on the computer...

I have a... MXL 2001 Condenser, Behringer UB1204 Mixer, and I'm only using headphones (Behringer phones)

Now, I would be using 1/2inch from the main out generaly, but I dont have the cables handy for the time being. Right now... I just have 2 RCA cords...

1 set going from tape in on the mixer, to audio out on the card, then the other set going from tape out on the xixer, to audio in on the card... and from that... I have no problems hearing sound, wether its just the mic picking Up noises in the room, or playing MP3's from my computer... All of that is fine...

The only problem I hve i getting the mic to work with the computer... It's not picking up anything in the delta console, and it wont pick up anything in cool edit.

I also have checked the device settings in cool edit, and they're set to... WAVE IN & OUT; M-Audio Delta AP Multichannel...

I can give you pictures of my software setup, they're just too big to upload here.
 
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