Help Buying Mixers

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I Want To Buy A Mixer So I Can Record Drums With Lots Of Mics. I Was Looking At The Cheap Behringer Mixers But They Only Record At 48khz!!! I Want To Do 96khz Recordings. I Have A Preamp (dmp3) With 2 Inputs, So I Only Need About 6 Actual Mono Mic Preamp Channels, And Then At Least 2 Other Channels I Can Plug A Line Input Into From My Standalone Preamp.

Is The Difference Between 48khz And 96khz Really That Huge? It's Going To Have To Be Put Down To 44khz Anyway To Be Put On Cd.
 
whoa whoa whoa... slow down.

slow down.

is there a reason why you want a mixer with digital outputs?

also, 8 mics for a drum set is a bit much for the average home recorder. you can probably make ends meet with 4. and by make ends meet, it might yeild better recordings to keep things simple at first.

so you dont have any converters already?
 
Also where does it say Behringer only records at 48Khz? the new SL series go up to 192Khz,as I suppose does the UB-series?
 
take a good long look at the soundcraft mixers. That is what my band got ... the spirit E8. It has great quality preamps as well as other features such as graphic eq with sweepable mids that you wont find except on very expensive mixers. At 350 dollars for the 8 mono/xlr and 270 for the 6 mono/xlr they are great!
 
Guys, the UB and SL series mixers are *analog* mixers. They have a digital fx processor in them, but that's the only conversion going on. And Behringer states the conversion on the fx processor is 24/46k.
 
http://www.behringer.com/UB1222FX-PRO/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Click on the 24/46 icon. If it is really analog then this mislead me into believing that it output digitally. I don't want a mixer with digital output, although if it was 96khz I would accept that and buy the behringer because it's cheap.

Please explain how I would record using 4 mics? Like snare, bass, and 2 overheads and hope that the toms get heard maybe by some clever positioning of the overheads? Would adding 3 extra tom close mics really be THAT much harder? I understand that it will probably take me hours to get a good 7 mic setup positioned so that each mic sounds good by itself, interferes as little as possible with the other mics, and is leveled correctly in the mix. You don't think I could get a good sound out of all those mics with a lot of experimentation and testing?
 
I know it's an analog mixer cuz I have it along with the allen wizard board, just in the manual it says it can accept and transmit up to 192khz, Now I know behringer always say stuff they can't do
 
BRIEFCASEMANX said:
http://www.behringer.com/UB1222FX-PRO/index.cfm?lang=ENG

Click on the 24/46 icon. If it is really analog then this mislead me into believing that it output digitally. I don't want a mixer with digital output, although if it was 96khz I would accept that and buy the behringer because it's cheap.

Please explain how I would record using 4 mics? Like snare, bass, and 2 overheads and hope that the toms get heard maybe by some clever positioning of the overheads? Would adding 3 extra tom close mics really be THAT much harder? I understand that it will probably take me hours to get a good 7 mic setup positioned so that each mic sounds good by itself, interferes as little as possible with the other mics, and is leveled correctly in the mix. You don't think I could get a good sound out of all those mics with a lot of experimentation and testing?
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The big unknown about that is how good are those A/D convertors going to be?
Given Behringer's rep for general nastiness, and the cost, they are probably not going to be that great.
I would recommend you record analog, and let the A/D conversion be done by a good quality card, like an M-Audio delta 44, or delta 1010lt.
The delta 44 will let you record 4 tracks at once, and you can get them for $150. The 1010lt has 8 analog inputs for $230.

Get a nice clean signal into your PC, then apply all the effects you want in your software.

The other thing about that mixer is it only has 4 preamps. Check out the Yamaha MG12/4 mixer. It's got 6 pres for $199. Good quality and great for recording drums
 
ummm guys, the Berrie mixer you're discussing converts the audio internally for the fx. From looking at the pictures, it can only output analog. I would get a mixer w/o fx, and use plugins while you mix on/in the PC. I will admit that the 24/96 pop-up window is pretty misleading (especially to new folks)
 
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