Headphone hookup with soundcard/mixer

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Hey everyone I just want to say a big thanks to everyone who has been so supportive and helpful with me trying to work this out for the first time. I'm just getting into home recording and it's all been frustrating but you've all really helped me through it so thanks.

My question is now, how do I hook up headphones for monitoring purposes without bleeding into the track that's recording. I'm using the Delta 1010LT into a Yamaha MG10/2 mixer. I usually monitor through a stereo as a playback system but it would be much nicer to actually be able to hear what I'm playing along with what is already recorded but without the bleed through of the track. If that isn't possible, I would still like to be able to monitor through the mixer without bleeding into the other tracks. Any help would be much appreciated.

~Kevin~
 
Just use headphones instead of the speakers and plug them to your computer... Should work.
Or you can feed the signal from computer back to the Yamaha and use the headphone out of the mixer.
 
Plug delta outputs 1 & 2 into 2TR In on the mixer. Turn down the 2TR In knob, and turn up the C-R Out knob. That's what I do on the 12/4, hopefully do the same for you
 
Yeah well I've changed alot since then. I now run it like this.

Mic XLR>Mixer SEND 1 (pre) 1/4 to 1/8 TRS>Soundcard LINE IN (balanced)>Soundcard OUT FRONT Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Stereo reciever>Soundcard OUT BACK Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Mixer CH 7/8.

Use the Phone's jack on the mixer to hear playback and record. No bleed at all.

Monitor from the stereo. This is the best way I found to hook it up so far. I use software effects so this isn't a problem. I know this is very confusing. If you look at that thread I was clueless. The confusion with me was that that the damn mixer routed everything to the MASTER (ST).

So being done this way it doesn't.


If you have anymore questions don't be afraid to ask.



L8er,
livilaNic
 
livilaNic said:
Yeah well I've changed alot since then. I now run it like this.

Mic XLR>Mixer SEND 1 (pre) 1/4 to 1/8 TRS>Soundcard LINE IN (balanced)>Soundcard OUT FRONT Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Stereo reciever>Soundcard OUT BACK Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Mixer CH 7/8.

Use the Phone's jack on the mixer to hear playback and record. No bleed at all.

Monitor from the stereo. This is the best way I found to hook it up so far. I use software effects so this isn't a problem. I know this is very confusing. If you look at that thread I was clueless. The confusion with me was that that the damn mixer routed everything to the MASTER (ST).

So being done this way it doesn't.


If you have anymore questions don't be afraid to ask.



L8er,
livilaNic
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Well, cool. So you're just using the pre on the in side then.
 
Wow thanks everyone this seems like it'll be mondo helpful. I'm gonna try to set it up as soon as I'm done typing this. Thanks again for the speedy reply, you's guyses are awesome. ;) I'll let you know how it turns out!

:p

~Kevin~
 
livilaNic said:
Yeah well I've changed alot since then. I now run it like this.

Mic XLR>Mixer SEND 1 (pre) 1/4 to 1/8 TRS>Soundcard LINE IN (balanced)>Soundcard OUT FRONT Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Stereo reciever>Soundcard OUT BACK Speakers 1/8 to RCA L/R>Mixer CH 7/8.
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Ok I'm having trouble understanding this. Maybe I'm just not getting it. So you run the XLR from the soundcard into the Mixer Send 1? I'm lost here. I'm not sure what's plugging into what. clearly. If you could break it down step by step I would be your biggest fan....hope to hear back. Thanks again

~Kevin~
 
apl said:
Well, cool. So you're just using the pre on the in side then.
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Hell yeah! I was thinking why not? My soundcard has a LINE IN which is balanced so I was like why not run a balanced into it? The send is the only one that worked the way I was hoping for.

If I ran it from the ST's or the C-R OUT it would have to route throught the mixer. The send is seperate. Just runs off each channel. w00t!

I only record one thing at a time (I use the mixer for the pre's). So one thing at a time to the pre. I'm not sure how this would work for using the mixer as a mixer (multi-instruments at once) but for this it works the bestest ever! lol


L8er,
livilaNic
 
Plug w/e it is your plugging into the mixer and plug it into the mixer.

Take a TRS 1/4 and plug it into the send "1" then take the other end of that cord and plug it into the INPUT on the delta. You might need a 1/4 to dual mono 1/4 L/R. Then go OUT of the delta to the INPUT CH 7/8 RCA on the mixer. If your delta is 1/4 OUT's you need a 1/4 to RCA Or 1/4 to 1/4 (instrument cable) for each Left/Right Signal.


L8er,
livilaNic
 
Here's my setup:

Delta 1010LT
Stereo
10/2 Mixer

I run a line out from the card to the stereo.
I run a line in from the card to the ST out on the mixer
Then I run headphones from the stereo's headphone jack to monitor while recording.
For mixing I run a line out from the card to the 2TR in on the mixer and then plug into the mixer's headphone jack or Monitor through the stereo speakers.

I'm usually running 1 or 2 mics at most at a time. I just read your post above, I'm not sure if the setup will work like that now though. Let me know and thanks for the help.
 
Ok I tried mic CH 1, Guitar CH 2. I still didn't get bleed. I recorded to the same track though. What are you recording? You should be recording in mono. Keeping the fader in the recording program in the center. Just make sure to Make the INPUT on each track in the software to the right or left not stereo.

Like say if you recorded the guitar to the left and the voice to the right. You would track off the guitar so..

Just mute the voice in your recording program and Pan the mixer to the right (w/e channel your recording from).

And pan to the left on CH 7/8. This will allow you to hear what your playing through your right ear and track through your left. Nothing would bleed cause your your not sending the playback to the soundcard.

What 2 things are you recording at once?


Make sure the stereo is turned down when your using your phones.


Hope this makes sense.


L8er,
livilaNic
 
apl said:
Cool, liv.

Hey, velvet look over page 21 in the manual.
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Yeah I tried to follow that but it all routes to the ST fader. LAME!
 
What I do sometimes when recording acoustic guitar is to pan one channel slight left and another slight right and use a large Diaphragm mic (ADK A-51) on the sound hole and a small condenser mic (ADK SC-1) aimed at the neck. So they both record onto the same track which is no problem. I'm still not understanding you fully, are you saying to go with the setup I described to you or with the one you were describing to me? I'm still not clear on what goes where in your version of things. I'm sorry I'm being so slow about this.

Yeah my problem is what you said, it feeds everything to the ST Out. Thanks for your patience.

~Kevin~ :confused:
 
Well, if you've got a 1010 you can plug the two mics into one and two and then use the insert to get the signal to the 1010. Then you can pan and mix to taste in your PC.
 
livilaNic said:
Plug w/e it is your plugging into the mixer and plug it into the mixer.

Take a TRS 1/4 and plug it into the send "1" then take the other end of that cord and plug it into the INPUT on the delta. You might need a 1/4 to dual mono 1/4 L/R. Then go OUT of the delta to the INPUT CH 7/8 RCA on the mixer. If your delta is 1/4 OUT's you need a 1/4 to RCA Or 1/4 to 1/4 (instrument cable) for each Left/Right Signal.


L8er,
livilaNic
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This is the best way I can explain it to you. Then you can slightly mess with the send fader to the levels you want.
 
apl said:
Well, if you've got a 1010 you can plug the two mics into one and two and then use the insert to get the signal to the 1010. Then you can pan and mix to taste in your PC.
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*edit* He couldn't do it this way because hes using powered mics. I'm pretty sure going out the inserts bi-passes the pre's and phantom power.

I'm not at home so I can't make sure. Let me know if I'm wrong.Thx.


Lets us know what works for you plz.



L8er,
livilaNic
 
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Ha, ha. That's what I meant; too many pronouns.

mic->MG in 1, MG insert 1 ->1010
 
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