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Using the analogue effect systems from www.doepfer.de instead of spending 18003882's of $ on regular boring effect boxes?
I mean, you could get the kewlest analogue reverb, vocoder and filters by using the A100 modules and for no money at all compared to "dedicated" boxes.
I'm really considering this... like.. getting 3 reverb devices (1/4 the price of regular reverb boxes), a vocoder (2/3 and 5 module of the vocoder sets as far as i remember), and 2-3 filter boxes (wasp)...
comments?
 
Are you talking about their spring reverbs?
Spring reverbs doesn't sound that amazing...
And you can probably find them second hand for almost no money at all. In fact, there are a couple on sale on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1462767378

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1463409824

In fact, the prices they have seem to me to bee very close to "dedicated" boxes...

If you are gonna get a vocoder of theirs, you need $300 for the base rack and then another $300 for the vocoder modules. Thats $600. For that price you can get a Clavia Micro Modular, which is a complete virtual analog modular synthesizer. (It doesn't have reverb or delay, but thats the only thing it doesn't have).

http://www.clavia.se/modular.htm
 
i allready have a novation supernova with voice expansion so i'm not interessted in another synth. I got plenty hehe
But that doepfer vocoder is analogue and extemely kewl and a good analogue reverb unit for 70$ would be a darn bargain.
It's also a 3 op spring reverb, that's pretty flexible... but i haven't heard it yet.
 
The Clavia Micro Modular is not "another synth". It's a modular sound modification/creation system. You can use it to BUILD "another synth" if you want, but it's much more than that.
Yes, you need a micro modular. Anybody nerdy enough to contemplate the things you contemplated in your original post needs, and is worthy of, having a modular system.

I think $70 for a spring reverb is expensive. But they make cool noises if you bang on them.

Now, if you can find a cheap plate reverb, I'm game! :-)
 
hehehe. you're probably right about the plate vs. spring but reverbs and synth gear in general is exessively expensive in denmark. *grabs two mosquitos with left hand... wipes off in pants* :D
The sn is capable of allmost any synth sound imaginable and very modulative but i know the modular is kewl too.
 
It can't touch the modular. Trust me. I just joined a modular mailing list. Poeple there are writing "Noodles" which is endlessly variating sound creation patches, which seem to NEVER repeat, without having one single randomgenerator.

Many of them seem to be bases solely on feedback with no VCO's.

And the Clavia stuff is relatively cheap in the nordic.

Come on, you were contemplating buying a vocoder for $600.
The Micro modular has a vocoder, and much much more, and it around $600. You can't loose.
 
it can touch the modular allright. Very much so actually. But it's two different kinds of synthesis, so you can't compare them.
Anyway, I've tried the modular in Århus along with the virus, and i'm aware it's a cool piece but for my style the supernova is way better. I make progressive trance.
The reason i'm looking at the doepfer products is that they're analogue basically and the vocoder is brilliant.

Every synth owner will for a long time say that his synth is the best in the world, but that's really wrong, cause every synth has it's own unique characteristics.
 
You still don't get it do you? It's not a synth. It's a modular system! It will do EVERYTHING the Doepfer stuff will do, except for the cheapy spring reverb.
 
easy bro. it is a synth. A modular synth that is.
And with 4 parts it won't do all for me, cause i don't have a sampler.
I've tried out more synths than you can imagine, if you can only focus on that one synth, then you're the one who doesn't see it.

Man, i can't believe youre flipping out just because I don't think the modular will be the thing for my studio.
 
I've never said it would "do all" for you.

You contemplated buying a vocoder and some modular stuff for a price well over $600. I pointed out that you could get it for *below* $600 by getting a Micro Modular.

I've never asked you to chuck out all your other synths an get a Micro Modular instead, have I?

What is your problem? I'm telling you how you can acheive what you want, and more, for less monoey, and you start blubbering about "I don't need another synth".
 
i'll be using the reverbs for the first 3 stereo (6 mono) outputs of my supernova and then i wanna use a vocoder on the last (2 mono).
I want an analogue reverb and a different one on each of the 3 first stereo outputs. The Modular can't do that, it's as easy as that.
As for the filters, they will basically be for my 1210's, for effects during my sets, and a real analogue filter wouldn't be bad on one of the supernovas parts either.

as for filters it will probably be the http://www.doepfer.de/a121.htm
or two Electrix Filter Queen or Filter Factory, but they're damn expensive
Electrix also make a vocoder but i haven't heard em yet.

I can't see how i can achieve 3 independant reverbs, 2/3 independant filters and a vocoder with a Clavia.
 
You can't do reverbs at all, which I have been clear about all the time. There I suggested you'd buy second hand spring reverbs if you want spring reverb type echoes, since these are very cheap.

Is that unclear in any way? What is it you don't understand?
 
what i can't understand is why you want me to buy a Modular, when all i want is some reverb units, some filter units and a vocoder.
In Denmark the modular comes at 850$ at the cheapest store, and in other countrys, toll and VAT have to be added.

I can't have 2 seperate stereo filter units with the modular so that's money out the window in that sense and the analogue vocoder is far better than the one on the modular, so i don't really care if it cost 600$ or not.
Have to check out the electrix vocoder though cause it's far cheaper.

Another part is the doepfer 19" rack system which matches the rest of my gear...

The vocoder is anyhoo of lesser importance since i have orange vocoda on cubase, so i'll survive for now without one.
 
"Now, is there something you STILL doesn't understand?"
WTF is your problem? Do you have to keep on trying to patronise me even though i keep replying in a nice tone?

Anyway, it's not working cause your english is laggy and you obviously didn't get my point.

I do not want a Modular. I've tried it and it's cool, but if i have to spend 6000 kr, then i might as well pay 7000 and get me a micro Q which is far better IMO.

What i want is some stand alone devices to be fitted in a goddamn 19" rackmount.
And for my needs the doepfer vocoder is only 390 goddamn dollars ok?
A129/1+2 = 300$
and A129/3 = 90$
What, you can't count either? I'm not buying the goddamn Modular, face it! Not everybody think it's the synth of the millenium.
 
Well, the micro Q is another way of getting a vocoder, yes.
It's not as flexible as the Micro Modular, but sure, if you rather want that. I don't have any problem with you not wanting a Micro Modular. I DID have a problem with your lame excuses for not wanting it.

"I don't want another synth" (well, it's not a synth. It's a modular system including a vocoder for the same price as you wanted just the vocoder of the modular system).

"It can't replace the virus" Well, I never suggested you'd replace it, did I?

I'm patronizing you, because you are obvioulsy very slow to understand. I had to tell you four times that a more flexible alternative to buying a Doepfer vocoder was to buy a Micro Modular. Did you get it? Well, after four times, you seem to have finally understood. Maybe.

And you forgot to add the Doepfer rack in your price. It's $265. You need it to put the units in.
 
I got it fisrt time you idiot but you were obviously too slow to get my subtle hints that i'm not particulary fond of the Modular. (Cause you were pushing it with a fanatism worthy of a hamas member and i didn't want to offend you)
"It can't replace the virus"
Where the hell did you get that from you moron? Did you invent that line all by yourself? I never said that. I don't even own a goddamn virus.

THE MICRO MODULAR IS A SYNTH!!! Get it in your head!!! It's a modular synth! Damn you must be daft man. It's not even a modular system, cause it's all integrated into that little pathetic box and you can't move the pices around and replace them with others.

Your "alternative" to the doepfer vocoder was a more than 200$ more expensive unit with a lame arse vocoder, and i can tell you like to push people into buying the piece because you own one and now you think it's the synth of the millenium. Get a life.

ITS NOT THE SAME FUCKING PRICE!! Are you blind? 390 and 600$ look the same to you? Well it doesn't to me.

Man you obviously don't have any clue what so ever about anything but the Nord Modular. And you don't even realize it's a synth too.

And how many times have I told you that the doepfer system fits perfectely in with my other gear and i don't care dick if i have to pay for the frame?

You must really be an arse if you start patronizing people you recon are slow. But after reading your posts i realize that you're probably one of the most stupid guys i have ever met on any billboard on any site on the internet.. except a guy called Jiten. Maybe he's your twin brother.

It will do EVERYTHING the Doepfer stuff will do
man you obviously don't know dick. So shut the fuck up and go back to wanking all over your beloved nord modular.
 
It's interesting that you obviously doesn't read what I write at all. Sine I have to tell you everything three times before you get it, and the result is that you get pissed, I will now stop arguing with you.

And how many times have I told you that the doepfer system fits perfectely in with my other gear

Once, in the end, long after you got angry. Maybe you could have said that from the start, instead of coming with lame excuses that only prove that you have no idea what you are talking about.

and i don't care dick if i have to pay for the frame?

That you told me exactly zero times. You are obviously a thoroughly stupid person.

*plonk*
 
Shut up you stupid idiot.
"...Another part is the doepfer 19" rack system which matches the rest of my gear... " "...What i want is some stand alone devices to be fitted in a goddamn 19" rackmount..." What the fuck did you think i was gonna do? Steal it?

Since you don't know shit about anything but your precious modular i suggest you stop wanking all over it and go out into the real world and check out some of the real gear out there.

You have been telling me nothing i don't get. You're in love with your modular synth and you want me to fall in love with one too. Sorry to say it, but i have a life so no thanx. I don't want the goddamn machine.
I've seen another thread where you also try and pack one of these units on a fella. Man you're an idiot.

And since when is 600$ = 5900 kr foo? 1$=8.3 kr last time i checked.

WHAT LAME ARSE EXCUSE? I haven't made any excuses you fucking idiot!!! Fuck you must be the biggest arse i've ever come across.
You just grabbed that and the virus comment out of the thin air? Who the fuck isn't reading the others posts here?
 
Regebro, ithink you're out of order here. The guy wants a Doepfer! not a modsynth.

cant you just leave it like that!?

Romesh
Long Wave Studio
 
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