Has Studio Projects lost it's edge?

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notCardio said:
this is a post of yours from 10-05-05. This is what I was referring to. I think you elaborated further in the thread.

' Strange. We just finished the new "Feds" album a few weeks ago. Looks like they're switching from Capitol Records to Columbia/Sony. Columbia/Sony loved the album and was especially complimentary about the production and the recording. All the vocals on the new Feds album were done with an MXL V69ME - AND an MXL 990 !!!

So, maybe that should answer the question of whether a 990 is good enough for professional work; Columbia/Sony seems to think so. '
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Well, the 990 worked great for "The Feds" Matt Slider's voice on several songs. So yes, it can certainly be used for commercial releases.

But, I was talking about the 960, which I really like. Not as dark as a V67, but not as bright as a V69, the 960 just has a lot of nice vibe to it - for me.
 
So what's the deal

on the JM47? Anything you can compare it to, or briefly describe it?
 
notCardio said:
on the JM47? Anything you can compare it to, or briefly describe it?
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Yeah, the JM47, the V67, the 960, and the ADK Hamburg all have that "bigger than life", smoky, dusty, warm sound that I associate with good old mics like the Neumann U47 or the RCA 44BX ribbon mic. There's still some top end there, but it doesn't jump out and bite ya, like some of the newer breed of mics.
 
Yeah, that '47' reference

didn't go unnoticed. That took some cajones on their part. Is there also a JM87? A JM103? A JM441 & 421? , JM414, JM12c ? :rolleyes:
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Yeah, the JM47, the V67, the 960, and the ADK Hamburg all have that "bigger than life", smoky, dusty, warm sound that I associate with good old mics like the Neumann U47 or the RCA 44BX ribbon mic. There's still some top end there, but it doesn't jump out and bite ya, like some of the newer breed of mics.
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Well, since I've got a V67 that I'm not too crazy about (on me), I guess I can pass on those others too.

But that begs the question, why are you getting one if you have the similar (and also original they're patterned after) mics?

Thanks.
 
notCardio said:
Well, since I've got a V67 that I'm not too crazy about (on me), I guess I can pass on those others too.

But that begs the question, why are you getting one if you have the similar (and also original they're patterned after) mics?

Thanks.
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I don't have a U47 anymore. Dick Rosmini got my U47 about 30+ years ago, and I gave Stephen Paul my U47 power supply about 20 years ago. But, in answer to your main question, while somewhat similar, there are still slight differences. I guess the JM47 reminded Alan of an old mic as well.

For me, it all comes down to this:

If I can't afford a Rembrant, then I want the biggest box of crayons I can get.

Am I being silly? Must I have the very best tools to do quality work?

Maybe so, but here's an example of what one guy (Julian Beever) can do with some chalk, on a side walk:
 
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notCardio said:
didn't go unnoticed. That took some cajones on their part. Is there also a JM87? A JM103? A JM441 & 421? , JM414, JM12c ? :rolleyes:
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Not as far as I know.
 
tubedude said:
No frigging way on the chalk drawing.
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Yeah, way. Here's another. The guy freaks me out.
 
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Damn thats badass. Does he have a gallery online? You have more? Its ridiculous. Next time it rains its gone, too. Crazy.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Yeah, the JM47, the V67, the 960, and the ADK Hamburg all have that "bigger than life", smoky, dusty, warm sound that I associate with good old mics like the Neumann U47 or the RCA 44BX ribbon mic. There's still some top end there, but it doesn't jump out and bite ya, like some of the newer breed of mics.
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Hi Harvey, this is interesting to me as I am looking to get something... I was looking at the CAD M179 or Rode NT1-A, both of which i can get from the importer in New Zealand for around NZ$400. The Hamburg if I could find one would probably be a few hundred more, but someone is selling a slightly used JM47a, about a year old, for NZ$280.

I had heard that Joe Meek mics were of the lowest end of cheap condensors, i have rarely heard good comments about them... I can't really get to try any mics, so have to just go by reviews and opinions... as far as opinions go, yours would carry a lot of weight. If you are putting them in the roughly the same category as the hamburgs etc could be a good buy for me. ps, this is mainly for vocals (male, maybe female.. and acoustic guitar)

thanks, Simon
 
Simon,

All the mics I mentioned will be good for some voices, and not for others. Both male and female. I don't know that I'd use any of them as my primary acoustic guitar mic.

Are any of the mics I mentioned right for you? Yes, no, maybe. Vocal mics are a crap shoot, when it comes to finding the perfect mic for a particular voice.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Simon,

All the mics I mentioned will be good for some voices, and not for others. Both male and female. I don't know that I'd use any of them as my primary acoustic guitar mic.

Are any of the mics I mentioned right for you? Yes, no, maybe. Vocal mics are a crap shoot, when it comes to finding the perfect mic for a particular voice.
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thanks, yes I've picked that up in my reading here, its just without being able to try I suppose a cheaper mic vs a dearer one if they have a similar chance of working for me is probabaly better.

This may be a hard question, but judging the mics on some kind of semi-objective quality standard, would you put this in a similar category as the Nt1a or M179?

ps, you can hear me attempting to sing here... 'butterfly storm' is pretty rough, but you an get an idea... only if you have the time and inclination.
(ps piano and guitar arent mic'ed, plugins)
http://www.myspace.com/blushingcrows
 
the dairy giant said:
thanks, yes I've picked that up in my reading here, its just without being able to try I suppose a cheaper mic vs a dearer one if they have a similar chance of working for me is probabaly better.

This may be a hard question, but judging the mics on some kind of semi-objective quality standard, would you put this in a similar category as the Nt1a or M179?

ps, you can hear me attempting to sing here... 'butterfly storm' is pretty rough, but you an get an idea... only if you have the time and inclination.
(ps piano and guitar arent mic'ed, plugins)
http://www.myspace.com/blushingcrows
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Nice sound, but back off the mic a bit, back off on the compressor, and add a pop filter. I think for your voice (if I were doing the recording), I'd try the M179, an MXL V69 or V77, or a Studio Projects T3.
 
Harvey Gerst said:
Nice sound, but back off the mic a bit, back off on the compressor, and add a pop filter. I think for your voice (if I were doing the recording), I'd try the M179, an MXL V69 or V77, or a Studio Projects T3.
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Thanks very much for the advice and recommendation! :)

Simon
 
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