has anyone invented a wireless electric guitar yet?

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Tadpui said:
I wonder if Bluetooth would be a good candidate for wireless instruments? The current wireless units are prone to interference. I wonder if that could be avoided by using the Bluetooth standard? I don't know much about it so I don't really know its shortcomings.
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Current wireless' are prone to interferance from emergency vehicles and airports, etc... bluetooth will be prone to interferance from everyone in the audience with a cell phone. Bluetooth only goes about 30 feet.

If you buy a good wireless (not the $120 Nady POS) you won't have problems with interferance because it will find a clear frequency to work on.
 
muttley600 said:
As you say there really isn't much of a call for a guitar with built in pre's, effects, wireless transmitters etc. If there was people would be queuing up to buy them. Much easier to add that stuff after market and keep the guitar as long as you want.
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There was a company in the 70's that made guitars with built-in effects. It seems like a great idea, but in reality it doesn't work very well.
 
Farview said:
There was a company in the 70's that made guitars with built-in effects. It seems like a great idea, but in reality it doesn't work very well.
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I met a guy years ago who built electric guitars and he had a wah built into a guitar.It was interesting but pretty much useless since it was controlled by a knob and had to be turned back and forth to get the wah effect.Maybe if it was set up like an envolope filter it could've been useful.Still,i prefer to keep my effects on the floor.

I had this cheap axe i bought from a dept. store when i was a teen that had a built in speaker and ran off a 9 volt battery.It was called a Synsonic i think and you could plug headphones into it.I got it for $15 as a close out display model.It was of course junk but i'll admit it was a fun novelty.I even tried to put a bigger speaker in it! didn't help
 
Farview said:
Current wireless' are prone to interferance from emergency vehicles and airports, etc... bluetooth will be prone to interferance from everyone in the audience with a cell phone. Bluetooth only goes about 30 feet.

If you buy a good wireless (not the $120 Nady POS) you won't have problems with interferance because it will find a clear frequency to work on.
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Right, but with Bluetooth, don't you have the ability to isolate/register a single device? So if you have a Bluetooth transmitter on your guitar, could you register that with a BT receiver on your amp so that your guitar is the only BT device that your amp "sees"?

Like with my Playstation 3, I have several controllers (a couple of gamepads, Guitar Hero controllers, Buzz controllers, etc.). They don't interfere with each other, and they're each individually detected and registered with the PS3. Or with my cel phone, I can register other cel phones with it and swap files. It seems to uniquely identify each BT transmitter/receiver as if they have a unique ID. And it rejects any device that isn't registered with the phone (my phone doesn't see my PS3 controllers, my PS3 doesn't see my phone, my phone doesn't see unregistered phones in the pockets of my house guests, although they all use BT to communicate).

The UHF technology behind a guitar wireless receives anything within a certain frequency range, hence the interference by anything that happens to be broadcasting in that range.

Anyways, It's all black magic to me, I don't understand it. I'm just wondering if there might be a future for things like Bluetooth in the music/live performance industry.
 
Of course! I've already installed bluetooth in my Les Paul. I can play my Marshall stack from anywhere I have signal (it cuts out a little when I go under train tressels and whenever I'm in Rhode Island). That way I don't have to actually go to gigs anymore.


Oh, and they just wire me the money.
 
Tadpui said:
I'm just wondering if there might be a future for things like Bluetooth in the music/live performance industry.
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Unquestionably that is the future of live performance, as it enables audience participation and customization to a degree not yet achieved. Good thing I patented that last week . . . :D
 
mshilarious said:
Unquestionably that is the future of live performance, as it enables audience participation and customization to a degree not yet achieved. Good thing I patented that last week . . . :D
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Hahaha, yeah you got in on the ground floor on that one! Now to stand back and watch the royalties roll in :)
 
Tadpui said:
Hahaha, yeah you got in on the ground floor on that one! Now to stand back and watch the royalties roll in :)
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Yeah, except I never bothered to do a patent search, or file a patent application. That costs $350, which is a lot of beer.

Oh well, public domain it is. Like most patents, it was an obvious idea anyway.
 
Farview said:
There was a company in the 70's that made guitars with built-in effects. It seems like a great idea, but in reality it doesn't work very well.
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Around that same time, I worked in a music store teaching, repairing, and demonstrating guitars. I think the name was something like 'MPC', or sumpin, sumpin?

That was one cool as hell bass. Plug in modules. Had an excellent feel and balance too. If you find any info, let us know.

Not as good as my 4003, though.:D;)
 
mshilarious said:
Unquestionably that is the future of live performance, as it enables audience participation and customization to a degree not yet achieved. Good thing I patented that last week . . . :D
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I hate to break it to you but I know of one major pickup manufacturer who is researching bluetooth stack technology as the way forward in wireless technology. They are investing serious money into research and out sourcing development expertise as we speak. I have a potential involvement for some of the mock ups. I would suspect that most if not all of the other major manufacturers are carrying out similar practicality tests.
 
muttley600 said:
I hate to break it to you but I know of one major pickup manufacturer who is researching bluetooth stack technology as the way forward in wireless technology. They are investing serious money into research and out sourcing development expertise as we speak. I have a potential involvement for some of the mock ups. I would suspect that most if not all of the other major manufacturers are carrying out similar practicality tests.
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Oh, I am not surprised at all, I did say the idea was too obvious not to have been exploited already.

It will be a cool future when you can wander around a concert hall and get a different concert experience based upon how your fellow concert-goers around you are processing the wireless-concert-cast, and subsequently broadcasting their own interpretation.

Still not as good as unamplified music though.
 
mikemorgan said:
Of course! I've already installed bluetooth in my Les Paul. I can play my Marshall stack from anywhere I have signal (it cuts out a little when I go under train tressels and whenever I'm in Rhode Island). That way I don't have to actually go to gigs anymore.


Oh, and they just wire me the money.
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What, you guys don't believe me? While the technology was not mine, the concept was, and I'll sue the pants off anyone tries to build one without my say-so.
 
Well if you were to stand inside a Faraday cage so as to not get electrocuted and hooked your guitars out put to a Tesla coil the air discharge would travel through space the bigger the coil the futher the discharge(and maybe through time too who the heck knows) and be picked up by a receiving amp/speaker but probably not the traditional design of today but then again maybe for one huge power chord like in the movie Back to the future.
 
Farview said:
There was a company in the 70's that made guitars with built-in effects. It seems like a great idea, but in reality it doesn't work very well.
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OMG! I had that! It was a Les Paul copy I bought from Sears! It was made at the same factory that a lot of the Paul copies were being made at (Ibanez, Cort, etc.) I'm sure it sounded like shit, but at the time, being 14, I'm sure it was the greatest thing in the world. At least it sounded great through my Stage65 amp (also bought at Sears).:D


As far as guitar staying "analog".....Gibson has a line of Les Pauls out that have auto robotic tuning. So, one never knows.

Also, I've yet to use a wireless that didn't change my tone. Of course, I've never used one that cost more than $400. I wouldn't play live without one, even with the slight tone loss, but I would never record with one, and certainly can't think of a use for one in the studio.


As far as Bluetooth goes.......FM will not be the standard for wireless forever. 2.4 lasted about 4 years, and is now replaced with 5.4, and 6.0. Nothing stays the same. Things are always moving forward.

And you guys with your Bluetooth patents don't impress me! I've invented a system that allows me to use my guitar via WiFi. I can connect my guitar to my amp from anywhere in the world through the internet!:D
 
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