Hardcore/death metal Distortion, how?
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SecondHeartbeat
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Gorty said:
i know hatebreed uses or used to use completely tubed out amps.
so unless you have a full on tube amp your not going to be able to exactly replicate their sound.
killmachine
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Save and get a Marshall JCM 900, or Mesa triple rec. Make sure you've got a 4x12 cab and your almost there. Matter of fact either one of those amps has pretty good built in overdrive.
killmachine said:
Taking a look at the gear he has I don't think he particually wants to drop that amount of cash on an amp.
If I were you I'd get a POD 2.0 or something similar. This won't get you the exact sound of a full on blow Mesa,Mashall, Laney, ENGL stack but then again It doesn't cost near as much as them either.
Just my opinion.
Ps. Being a guitar player playing through SS's for years once you get your 1st tube amp it'll hook you more than herroin.
killmachine said:
Because Hatebreed and Throwdown have so many blastbeats in their songs...
I know when I hear Throwdown I think to myself "this band isn't trying to sound like Pantera, they're trying to sound like AxCx."
By the way, hardcore and death metal guitar tones are often dissimilar. A lot of heavy hardcore/metalcore bands use high gain tube amps and their tone is really thick, heavy, and saturated. There's generally a lot less going on in terms of intricate playing in hardcore than there is in technical death metal. On the other hand, I've seen death metal bands that play through solidstate amps for a more processed, mechanical type of sound.
killmachine
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rut row, i sense a hardcore arguement coming on this one..... x x x x x x x x x x x x x x xx x x x x x x x x x x x x x x it up all the way to outer space...
I vote for the the space cadet hardcore dancer, half way between old school hippie and NYHC style dancing.....
I vote for the the space cadet hardcore dancer, half way between old school hippie and NYHC style dancing.....
killthepixelnow
Do it right or dont do it
But really, there's nothing like the sound of tubes cooking. Take Cannibal Corpse, they used Crate tube heads for "The Wretched Spawn" CD. The exception was Dimebag darrel (RIP in the guitar gods heaven), he used solid state distortion.
darrenoneill
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dont use pedal at all if you are planning to record
these deth metal pedals sometimes sound ok, but youll need to roll of the gain for recording and itll just die
they are a waste of money for you
Just get a better amp, whatever you can afford
some people seem to have got some nice results from the PODs, I like ewhat I heard on here from a pod xt pro
dont use pedal at all if you are planning to record
these deth metal pedals sometimes sound ok, but youll need to roll of the gain for recording and itll just die
they are a waste of money for you
Just get a better amp, whatever you can afford
some people seem to have got some nice results from the PODs, I like ewhat I heard on here from a pod xt pro
cellardweller
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oDD
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As previously stated - get yourself a Peavy Bravo 112 (awesome little amp - definite sleeper - w/ amazing distortion -got one myself) replace the tubes and swap out the 12" speaker for a celestion vintage 30 or something and your good to go. Throw a POD into the mix and you've got more options.
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gcapel
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Your going to to have to have a guitar with a hot bridge humbucker. For me the gibson 500t is it. Others like emg or Seymor Duncan Evolution.
In the amp department i would look on ebay. There are several older amps that will do it. I think your going to have to look at older mesa amps. I would suddgest DC-5 or DC-10 combo or head. For total versital mojo I would look at the Mesa Mark IV. It will do clean, classic rock, and monster rock with a footswitch at your feet. You can find DC-5 amps for 500 bucks. Mark Iv will be 1000 or more.
Other brands in small combo amps i would look at VHT pitbull or Orange(maybe).
Marshalls are more for Iron maiden / AC/DC type distortion.
But you want balls. Peavey (excluding 5150 maybe), fender, etc.. isn't going to cut it.
In the amp department i would look on ebay. There are several older amps that will do it. I think your going to have to look at older mesa amps. I would suddgest DC-5 or DC-10 combo or head. For total versital mojo I would look at the Mesa Mark IV. It will do clean, classic rock, and monster rock with a footswitch at your feet. You can find DC-5 amps for 500 bucks. Mark Iv will be 1000 or more.
Other brands in small combo amps i would look at VHT pitbull or Orange(maybe).
Marshalls are more for Iron maiden / AC/DC type distortion.
But you want balls. Peavey (excluding 5150 maybe), fender, etc.. isn't going to cut it.
metalhead28
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amra said:
Don't forget NILE, but they're not very heavy I guess.
breeeeza said:I am new to distorted electric guitar as in the past i havnt been too interested in guitar (drums was my main priority) but recently i have taken an interest. I have a 15 watt fender amp, yamaha pacifica guitar and (oh dear) really cheap behringer 'ultra metal' distortion pedal ( all i could afford)
I cant get the distortion i want, I want distortion like hatebreed or throwdown,
Link= http://www.myspace.com/hatebreed
On the pedal i can EQ it, are there any tricks or tips on how to get that distortion? Or will i have to get a new pedal, if i do whats a reasonably cheap one that will do it?
Thanks
Those sounds are usually achieved via Krank revolution 1, a Peavy 5150, or a Mesa dual/triple rectifier.
Coupled with either a krank, Marshall, or Mesa 4x12 cabinet.
Couple that with a tube screamer, or maxon od pedal to boost the input that the tube heads pre amp tubes will recieve. Thus achieving a hot yet tight signal.
Then of course theres the detuned 6 or 7 string guitars to add extra girth.
(and of course these are usually top quality instruments as well)
All that is usually captured by an sm57, an md 421, or an audix I5, and usually quadruple tracked for thickness.
Then once in the mix the further processing takes place......i.e. more Eq, compression, etc etc etc.
The longwinded point is this.
You have a little amp an a pedal.
They have something far far different.
Oh and lets not forget talent....thats important too haha!!
cellardweller
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NILE?metalhead28 said:Don't forget NILE, but they're not very heavy I guess.
Next thing you'll be tellin' me is that Mortician is Nu-metal and Cradle of Filth are Black Metal.
metalhead28
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faderbug said:
Maybe some rock outfits operate that way, but you will basically never see an extreme metal band rocking a little combo or anything like that in the studio. I'm not saying that it can't be done....but it's certainly not common in any way.
Finster called it right.
