Happy happy Pop Pop on Piano

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The video is stock footage from a video plan I belong to. I've weighed doing AI video for my pieces, and some of it seems pretty incredible, but it is wicked expensive. My plan (Cyberlink PowerDirector) is under a hundred bucks a year for the program and access to stock video inventory. The AI vids want 100 bucks a month.

This is a new mix of this piano based pop piece that I kind of stole from a Prince song that I can't remember. I only remember it was a Prince song - maybe about a park or something?

... which is weird, because I've got very little guitar in this.

Any/all comments warmly welcome.
 
Very good vocals - the ghost notes on the drums are kind of distracting - and bass IMO needs to be cleaned up.
 
Cool track, nothing wrong with it. I personally wish it had more of that early Beetle's vibe in the mix.
 
Papanate said:
Very good vocals - the ghost notes on the drums are kind of distracting - and bass IMO needs to be cleaned up.
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I'm remixing the album and seeking clarity, I really thought the ghost notes pushed the melody subtly. Agreed on the bass clarity - but it's not my part. I'm at the mercy of the source recording. I wreaked as much clarity as I could from it.

Thanks for the thoughts!
 
Doug H said:
Cool track, nothing wrong with it. I personally wish it had more of that early Beetle's vibe in the mix.
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Every time I think I'm done w/ something, I tend to go back and rework it. I might do that w/ the Beatle-y vocal in this as well. I don't want to overdo it either.
 
K-dub said:
I'm remixing the album and seeking clarity, I really thought the ghost notes pushed the melody subtly. Agreed on the bass clarity - but it's not my part. I'm at the mercy of the source recording. I wreaked as much clarity as I could from it.

Thanks for the thoughts!
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Would you send me the tracks?
 
Papanate said:
Would you send me the tracks?
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Happy to do so. You want me to send stems or the original tracks (prior to processing). I could also send the midi track for the drums and you could do your own. LMK.
 
K-dub said:
Happy to do so. You want me to send stems or the original tracks (prior to processing). I could also send the midi track for the drums and you could do your own. LMK.
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That’s fine pre processing tracks - actually if you’ve done compression and reverb and stuff - send them on - do you EZ drummer/ if so just send me the midi file and what drum pack you used.
 
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Papanate said:
That’s fine pre processing tracks - actually if you’ve done compression and reverb and stuff - send them on - do you EZ drummer/ if so just send me the midi file and what drum pack you used.
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PM me your email. I'll send via Google drive share. I'll send the drum midi. I believe it natively will work w/ EZD, but I've got it set up for AD2 via midi mapping in the synth. Piano might be midi as well. If so, that's what I'll send. If not, you'll get the audio unadorned.
 
This is a first mix . it’s cool song but I’m having trouble wrappiing my head around it - BTW My Daughter loves the tune - she wanted to talk to you if possible.


 
Papanate said:
This mix is better so don’t listen to the first one!
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That is a very modern mix! It's got great balance and clarity. If I were to have a minor (taste) nit, it would be I'd take a little brightness off the snare a touch.


Curiously, currently, I'm more in a throwback to the 70s style of mixing. I'll try to post up an example later - but I've gone for more air around the sound stage and less limiting.
 
This is a quick headphone mix for example of the difference in approach aforementioned. Note that the instrumentation is set back smaller, with more air and the vocal is left prominent forward.

I used to run my source tracks in the -12 to -14 db range.

I'm now mixing w/ source tracks in the -24db range - down to -40 and usually no closer than -12 on the higher level tracks. For instance, the vocal on this is at -16db on the source track. The organ is -30db.

You can hear the headroom.
 

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I think operating at lower initial levels increases the depth of the sonic black behind the mix, creating deeper contrasts in more "3D" presentation. I'm still hitting the limiters pretty significantly (12 out of 20), but they operate w/in a better tolerance level because they're not up against internal constraint limits. They're not being overworked. There's plenty of headroom to do what needs to be done for the clarity, while not bonking up against capacity limitations.
 
K-dub said:
That is a very modern mix! It's got great balance and clarity. If I were to have a minor (taste) nit, it would be I'd take a little brightness off the snare a touch.


Curiously, currently, I'm more in a throwback to the 70s style of mixing. I'll try to post up an example later - but I've gone for more air around the sound stage and less limiting.
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I didn’t have the Drummer Midi - so I faked the drums with 4 tracks - I agree BTW it’s too bright for me.
 
K-dub said:
This is a quick headphone mix for example of the difference in approach aforementioned. Note that the instrumentation is set back smaller, with more air and the vocal is left prominent forward.

I used to run my source tracks in the -12 to -14 db range.

I'm now mixing w/ source tracks in the -24db range - down to -40 and usually no closer than -12 on the higher level tracks. For instance, the vocal on this is at -16db on the source track. The organ is -30db.

You can hear the headroom.
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You can hear the headroom - whats on the vocal track? It’s like a doubler with a little chorus or something.
 
Manslick said:
Simplify the drums.
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I kind of like them busy - but I was a bit lucky on the midi drum find. I have started to record a local band - a couple mere miles from my home. They have a studio w/ a good recording set up. I may be able to tap their drummer (who is really good) to do a live take of it. That WOULD like improve the groove.
 
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