Guitarists over 40...

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey thanks Bdbdbuck, yea, life has a way of telling you your to old to be doin this stuff- I say fuck em. I have a stinkin ball in my little old "woom". Beats chasing a white ball around a park All my sons friends who play, love to come over and learn, and fool around. They love to play music with me too!! They know I may not play the same as them, but I can play rings around them anytime I choose. Its the stuff they can't play they want to learn. So I teach em! First I sit em down and tell them, what do you want to be- a guitarist or a musician. If they choose the first one, i give em a name of a local music store. If they say the second one, I tell them to get ready for a journey. Then I start enlightening them to the 60 chord system. Gotta learn what to play before you learn how to play it, right. Ok, thats enough, my disease gets to me. Ha! Good luck with your studio. And HAVE FUN, lifes short.
fitz

 

[Lt. Bob]

Life is wrong. You're never too old to do this. look at Papa John Creech. Played in rock bands 'till he was in his 70's.
I'm 51 and I have more energy than the kids in my band that are 25 years younger than me.
And the current music?.....it's the same stuff we did when we started; just with better equipment. And young musicians respect the geezers that are still doing it too. I get lots of questions and oohs and ahhs over the fact that I've been playing since "The Days". Started pro when I was 12 and I'm 51 now. I have no intention of quitting..................................ever!

 

[bdbdbuck]

You GO man. You are living the dream. I should have never stopped, I miss giggin'. I think the first step is just kinda learning how to play all over again. Hell my fingers don't move like they used to. Don't get me wrong, I never really did completely quit, but I would play long enough to get the callouses back and then I'd put the guitar away for 6 months. Not exactly the 8-10 hours a day I used to do!

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Yea Bdbdbuck, the consistency thing is hard when you have family and responsibilitys. I just do what I can and enjoy it. Besides, I'm not trying to impress anyone anymore. I just play what I know, and what these old fingers can do. Boy do they get sore after a four hour session. Crap, I used to play afterhours, after a regular 9 to 2, Played from 2 in the morning till 7. Go home and sleep for a while and come back and do it all over again. Sometimes go to someones studio after that and play all sunday afternoon too! Those were the days!! Couldn't do one night of it now though. Ha!!

And your right too Lt. Bob, look at Stephen Grappelli, shit, he played into his 90's. Now thats a musical life. What a monster player too! Wish I could play half as good. He looked alive too. Music hath powers.....
fitz

 

[philboyd studge]

Re: ventures

yeah, it's been a long time but if memory serves me I remember a tune called "Rebel Rouser" sorta sticks in my mind. Sure would like to run across a stash like that!

'Rebel Rouser' - by Duane Eddy and Lee Hazelwood. My idol, I bought all his 45's, him and Lee Hazelwood's session guy and often co-writer Al Casey. Now I own Al Casey's guitar.......life is good.

About 20 years ago I was hanging out with some folks in Tahoe and the subject got around to early guitar influences, mine being Duane Eddy and the group The Fireballs. So Dan says "Oh yeah" and dials a number and hands me the phone. It was him, Duane Eddy his own self. Now I've been around the block celebrity wise but this was different, this was an idol. I couldn't form words. Turned out he still playing along with selling real estate in the area. He came over and I eventually calmed down and was able to speak.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

'Rebel Rouser' - by Duane Eddy and Lee Hazelwood. My idol,

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha! Can't beleive it. Life is good!! 40 miles of bad road(I think that was the name wasn't it?) I still love Duane Eddy D God what a memory. Thats the first song I learned. On a black Airline F hole double cutaway STEREO guitar with BIGSBY. Man. 1960. Alright Philboyd, how are you? Hows your "tenure" Good for you philboyd. Its great to see guys still doin it. I would if someone called me But it would have to be weddings or coffee house type stuff. I don't dig bars anymore. Great to hear from you. And BTW, I accidentally erased a bunch of stuff on my hd, including your email address. I was never able to pick up your "offer",. Love to see it. I'm still looking for Rose's stuff
Hey, anyone ever learn "guitar boogie shuffle" by the Virtues. Or how bout the Shadows "Apache" I even used to like the goofy stuff. As long as it had "geetar" I liked it!!!! My god, I used the first fender reverb and echo plex in town. Great sounds.
Especially through a Fender Single Showman. The vibrato on the 15" JBL with the cone moving........shit, I was in players heaven!!!!
fitz

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

Hey philboyd, where did you say you live and play? That is if you don't mind me asking.
fitz

 

[philboyd studge]

'Apache' was originally by Jorgen Ingmann released on Atco (I'm looking at the record), flip side - Echo Boogie.

Rick,

I live in La Quinta in the Coachella Valley, golf capitol of the world plus six Indian casinos. I used to play at a resort in Indian Wells but left a week ago after 4 1/2 years. Haven't decided which way to go yet but I'm doing mostly private parties the rest of the month.

 

[Lt. Bob]

4 1/2 years is long enough for any place. I get pretty antsy when I've been in one place too long.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

'Apache' was originally by Jorgen Ingmann released on Atco

Oh my god your right, a friend just emailed me the version by the Shadows, it was on my mind!! thanks
fitz

 

[Buffalo Bob]

What time is the AARP meeting guys? Anybody seen my teeth?

 

[Trotter]

It's not that bad Bob. At least if anybody asks you to play a Hendrix solo with your teeth it should be a lot easier.

 

[philboyd studge]

4 1/2 years is long enough for any place. I get pretty antsy when I've been in one place too long.

Yeah, I'm 56 now, but I was 28 when I started playing there four years ago.

 

[Buffalo Bob]

Could you play "Cracklin' Rosie" for my girlfriend?


Here's a whole dollar.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

What time is the AARP meeting guys? Anybody seen my teeth?

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHTGRGGG PTUUUEE!! ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRR DAMN TEETH!! Can't even laugh Crap, can't see the neck. Damn, can't even stand here for one set. AHHHH my feet are killing me! (maybe thats why I don't play out
fitz (I broke my knee about 10 yrs ago, and now one leg is shorter than the other.)
Makes for terrible playing posture, and forget about jumping on stage)

 

[philboyd studge]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHTGRGGG PTUUUEE!! ARRRGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRR DAMN TEETH!! Can't even laugh Crap, can't see the neck. Damn, can't even stand here for one set. AHHHH my feet are killing me! (maybe thats why I don't play out
fitz (I broke my knee about 10 yrs ago, and now one leg is shorter than the other.)
Makes for terrible playing posture, and forget about jumping on stage)

If it's the left knee toss the guitar and take up the banjo, you'll be level in no time.

 

[RICK FITZPATRICK]

G'day to ya phiboyd. Thanks for the funny I exaggerate a bit sometimes. I'm ok. Just feels that way, but I would trade my soul to play dobro though. Thats my FAVORITE sound. Sends goose bumps up my spine when I hear a killer dobro player. Especilly when he trades 4's with fiddle or steel. YEEEEEEESSSSSSSIREEEE thats what I dig. I love bluegrass too much amongst all the other stuff. Wished I would have got aligned with it at an earlier age. Don't get me started though. I already talk way toooooo much. "Don't get around much anymore", so this is where I connect!! Hey philboyd, I am surmising you are a published songwriter, and forgive me if I didn't connect with your name if you are. Sounds like you have seen a lot though.
fitz

 

[philboyd studge]

Yeah I'm published and usually the publisher but it's the same old thing, even with the bluegrass labels Sugar Hill and Pinecastle that have a few of my songs out now (there's airplay on satellite), it's the same darn songs. They aren't all that interested in anything new. Apparently once your over forty you are destined to do covers, even if they are your own.

There was a good article on this in our local fish wrap newspaper called 'Aging Rockers' by Jim Abbott for the Orlando Sentinel that deals with this very subject. Couldn't find it on the net or I'd post a link, but it was mainly about how artists like Springsteen and Bonnie Raitt have to market themselves these days.....hitting the talk show circuit cause radio won't play them.

It's all wrong. Here we have an age bracket of 40 to 60 or so that has little or no interest in what's on the radio cause it's programmed for a younger audience, or when they are targeted it's classic rock or oldies. I'm all for nostalgia and everything but why is it assumed by marketers that I'm musically locked into the '60's. There's some ad on tv for a folk music cd collection with 'Green Green' and 'Where Have All the Fucking Flowers Gone?" C'mon.

Here we are in age group thats got all the wealth and power yet we by and large spend very little on music. Here's an idea, lets start a label specifically targeted to this generation and record new material from artists both famous and unknown.

 

[notCardio]

Dick Dale!

I hate to break in and get OT, but I gotta ask Rick F:
Does that lava lamp cause any buzz? I wanted to get a couple for the console area, but I was afraid it might induce hum.

Keep on rockin'. Doing what you enjoy is what's going to keep you young.

 

[bdbdbuck]

Yeah I'm published and usually the publisher but it's the same old thing, even with the bluegrass labels Sugar Hill and Pinecastle that have a few of my songs out now (there's airplay on satellite), it's the same darn songs. They aren't all that interested in anything new. Apparently once your over forty you are destined to do covers, even if they are your own.

There was a good article on this in our local fish wrap newspaper called 'Aging Rockers' by Jim Abbott for the Orlando Sentinel that deals with this very subject. Couldn't find it on the net or I'd post a link, but it was mainly about how artists like Springsteen and Bonnie Raitt have to market themselves these days.....hitting the talk show circuit cause radio won't play them.

It's all wrong. Here we have an age bracket of 40 to 60 or so that has little or no interest in what's on the radio cause it's programmed for a younger audience, or when they are targeted it's classic rock or oldies. I'm all for nostalgia and everything but why is it assumed by marketers that I'm musically locked into the '60's. There's some ad on tv for a folk music cd collection with 'Green Green' and 'Where Have All the Fucking Flowers Gone?" C'mon.

Here we are in age group thats got all the wealth and power yet we by and large spend very little on music. [Here's an idea, lets start a label specifically targeted to this generation and record new material from artists both famous and unknown.]

That's a stellar idea! Sounds like you have a few connections. Who's to say it wouldn't fly?