Guitar with a fast Neck

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it's called "mis-information"

;)

i'm sure crystal meant well !!

LOL

don't listen to anyone else, go find out for yourself.
 
Fastest I can remember was a '68 Hagstrom, can't recall the model but the neck was super flat, the action super low.

rpe
 
To answer questions...

No I'm not "Paul Gilbert". WHo is that? The name sounds familiar.

Secondly - I did not say that the fret sizes on A guitar don't vary.

I said that each fret (meaning all first frets) are all the same size on ALL guitars.

THis is true as you can get. It's a function of physics, people.

The length of the string from the bridge to the nut is identical on all guitars.

And the distance for each fret much be PERFECT otherwise the guitar will NEVER be in tune.

I know this because I am not only knowledgable in physics but I also DESIGN guitars myself.
 
Crystal is right about the necks. The one thing that varies the most is how the neck feels to the individual. I've played most of em and still prefer my Ovation "limited" to any just because it "feels" faster. It just fits my playing style perfectly and I'm most comfortable with it.


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People with big hands cant play fast?...
Thats bullshit...

I got big hands and long fingers, I can play pretty fast, of course the faster I play the sloppier I get, but theres a few moments of flash in there...LOL

I think its just a matter of how much time and effort you put in...

As far as fast necks, my Ibanez is pretty fast, but my ESP is the fastest....

:D :eek:
 
What do you mean the length of the string on all guitars is .the same.Gibson guitars generally have 24 3/4" scale,Strats 25 1/2" scale.There are quite a few differant popular scale lengths.I too have designed and BUILT a few guitars.I don't know squat about physics but I do know scale lengths vary.Paul Gilbert played..........Oh never mind!

CrystalStudios said:
To answer questions...

No I'm not "Paul Gilbert". WHo is that? The name sounds familiar.

Secondly - I did not say that the fret sizes on A guitar don't vary.

I said that each fret (meaning all first frets) are all the same size on ALL guitars.

THis is true as you can get. It's a function of physics, people.

The length of the string from the bridge to the nut is identical on all guitars.

And the distance for each fret much be PERFECT otherwise the guitar will NEVER be in tune.

I know this because I am not only knowledgable in physics but I also DESIGN guitars myself.
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Grinder's right - different scale lengths mean different distances between frets and different tension on the strings in order to tune them to the correct pitch.

Crystal, I hate to say it, but your posts are just not true. Sure, the primary factor in how fast a guitar player is will always be the player. However, stating outright that "all necks are the same and all players will play the same on all necks" is just stupid. :eek:

There are so many different neck profiles and variables precisely BECAUSE different players prefer different things. That's why there are different fret sizes, different neck thicknesses and shapes, and different radii and scale lengths as well.

Most shredders prefer a flat radius (as mentioned before). Vintage strats are 7 1/2" (I think - either that or 7 1/4"); modern strats are 9 1/2"; PRS are 10"; Gibson is 12"; and many shredders are 14" or 16" (or a compound radius of 10"-16" or something similar). A major drawback to a flatter radius is that some players claim it makes chords more difficult to finger comfortably. Most shredders also use thin necks. On the last guitar I ordered and built I went with a 12" radius and find it to be about just right for me, though I may try a 10" on the next one.

YES, it's correct that you suddenly won't play like Yngwie because of the neck on your guitar, but you may (and most likely WILL) find yourself playing slightly differently on different necks.
 
Parker Fly- no contest, some SG's come close. And Crystal, design a few more guitars, because your statements about fret width and length from saddle to nut are dead wrong.-Richie
 
Doing guitar doodles in your math notebook doesn't actually qualify as designing a guitar.
 
Sorry crystal but I think you stuck your foot in your mouth bro. Different scale length equils different fret spacing. And there are different sizes of fret wire. Better get another book on how to build a guitar.
 
FWIW after playing for what seems like a zillion years and having that question click/flash to/at me about 10 years ago, it's not so much the neck as your hands build and playing style imho, well, kinda, people with short chubby fingers have trouble with say strats because there necks are narrow and older strats came with the U necks that caused short fingers to come up short "in reaching" the bottom E or just being confortable playing, your thumb can take a beating jumping around, up and down a 'to" thick neck, tring to allow your short fingers to reach all the strings, with the new wide thin necks playing has gotten better or easier should i say, ibanez started the ball rolling i believe or that was the first unit i tried and had a fit over, (wide - thin) if you have long thin fingers, a fat, narrow neck should allow you control and the strings being close together would help your speed imho, this is all eralevent if the action is not set up or able to be set up correctly...

one more, if your happy with the action and neck you'll need to ponder the pickups next, getting "that" sound is over half the battle to start with...

just a thought, it's your hands, not so much there necks imho...

humm, forgive this cruddy post, i feel like dirt this morning... peace
 
The length of the string from the bridge to the nut is identical on all guitars.
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This statement is BS! Gibsons have a shorter neck than Fenders. If you don't think so, get a yard stick and check it yourself.
 
Sure there are fast and slow guitars, I used to play a Hondo copy explorer in he mid 80s it was a dog ! The axe I had before that (no name strat copy) was even worse, 10ft thick neck made outa concrete...blurgggghh !

Stand it next to my PRS CE24 and you would just laugh. However in direct contrast to the Tele I set up for slide (cos of its horrible playability and lovely tone), the USA made Jap I series strat I have puts even the PRS to shame !
 
Re: Re: Guitar with a fast Neck

CrystalStudios said:
100% myth. There is no such thing as a "fast neck". It's a complete myth. Any guitar is just as good for faster playing.

All frets are identical widths on all guitars - and neck size doesn't matter because no one wraps their hand around the neck when playing lead.

I am a professional guitar player, and can play just as fast on any guitar, weather it be acoustic or electric.

The only way you'll play fast is practice 8 hours a day.
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I have been playing for 30 years. There is absolutely a big difference in necks. I play a strat as my main. But, I can fly on gibson SGs. Fenders take work for speed. Going from a fender to an SG is like going from a Corvette to a Ferrari. I just prefer the sound of the strat over the SG.
 
Yeah. He re-read chapter 3 in the "Build Your Own Guitar" book and said to himself "DOH!"
 
So lets get this straight. I should check out the GIbson SG, Ibanez with wizard necks.
 
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