guerrilla audio cable...is it a joke?

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http://www.guerrillaaudio.com/product_27_Silver_XLR_Balanced_Cables_cat_1.html


half a meter... 1.5 feet of this cable comes out to $149. no i didn't forget a decimal. one hundred and fourty nine dollars.

they have no real hard logic in describing their product, and have typos.

a site search didn't come up with anything about them or reviews..

someone posted a link...and the cost blows my mind. what's 10 foot of monster/planetwave cable...20 bucks? as opposed to 1,000 bucks to buy that much of guerrilla audio?
 
Some people believe they are getting top quality if the price is high enough. Sometimes it is true, sometimes it is only a scam. Do you feel lucky?

I mean, some diet pills are $150. Yet, a lot of doctors will tell you that diet pills are nothing more than placebo/snake oil.
 
There was like a 700 page thread on GS about this, and no one even bothered to strap a multimeter across the cables and take a few simple measurements. Nobody could manage to run them D/A/D with a test signal. I can't be bothered with that sort of laziness. And for that, the cable manufacturer should publish the specs. If a difference can be heard, it can be measured. After all, what is recording but measurement?
 
I like there slogan.

"When you want the best, but dont want to pay for it"

The irony is borderline gayitity
 
And what's with that "skin effect"... That doesn't make any sense at all, I mean, I'm no physicist or electrical engineer, but that just doesn't make any sense. :confused:
 
pikingrin said:
And what's with that "skin effect"... That doesn't make any sense at all, I mean, I'm no physicist or electrical engineer, but that just doesn't make any sense. :confused:
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Skin effect is real, but the delay is so short (remember electrical signals move at roughly the speed of light) that it only practically affects very high frequency signals. Anybody suggesting that skin effect has anything to do with audio frequencies is automatically suspect as a charlatan.

http://www.audioholics.com/education/cables/skin-effect-relevance-in-speaker-cables
 
So are you guys saying I shouldn't have bought 10 of the 25' mic cables to use with a Behringer mixer?

Now I'm soooo confused.... :confused: :eek:





:D :D :D
 
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That's why I just make my own. Mogami neglex and Neutrik connectors with silver solder, just like the $100 mogami 25' only mine cost $14-$15.
 
pdlstl said:
So are you guys saying I shouldn't have bought 10 of the 25' mic cables to use with a Behringer mixer?

Now I'm soooo confused.... :confused: :eek:





:D :D :D
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Yeah, I think that using $1200 worth of mic cables on a $300 mixer should make it sound just like a Sony Oxford. It's worth a try.
 
mshilarious said:
If a difference can be heard, it can be measured. After all, what is recording but measurement?
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Give this man a ceegar.
 
i disagree. music today is not a "measurement"....in fact in many cases its far from what anything originally sounded like. even in the extreme case of a field location, I would still argue that it is not a measurement because there are no numbers or units, and no way to quantify any error.
 
FALKEN said:
i disagree. music today is not a "measurement"....in fact in many cases its far from what anything originally sounded like. even in the extreme case of a field location, I would still argue that it is not a measurement because there are no numbers or units.
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Music isn't a measurement, sound is. Music is art, sound is physics.
 
FALKEN said:
i disagree. music today is not a "measurement"....in fact in many cases its far from what anything originally sounded like. even in the extreme case of a field location, I would still argue that it is not a measurement because there are no numbers or units, and no way to quantify any error.
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Digital audio is just a bunch of numbers. Therefore, when analyzing any piece of gear, a digital source signal can be used as a 100% repeatable test, and comparison made to the original signal. This is true even if the signal must be transduced as part of the test.

It could be that the signal used is insufficient to detect the difference; however, that is a function of the design of the test, because if a difference is audible, it can be recorded and analyzed.

Many of the specs you get with gear aren't really sufficient to suss out these differences, but the designers know what they are, because instead of, for example, a single noise or distortion statistic, they know what the entire noise spectrum looks like, and what the distortion is at various frequencies and various levels, the exact frequency response, and effects like intermodulation distortion, etc.

When you have all that data, it's easy to understand why gear with similar specs sounds different. But just because the general public doesn't see that level of data doesn't mean that all analysis is worthless, and the only "valid" test is a non-blind non-repeatable listening test.
 
ok then tell me how you would determine how "accurate" a recording of my strat into a marshall a given recording chain is when compared to the "original", what your ears are hearing come out of the amp.
 
FALKEN said:
ok then tell me how you would determine how "accurate" a recording of my strat into a marshall a given recording chain is when compared to the "original", what your ears are hearing come out of the amp.
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Now that's just silly. :)
 
FALKEN said:
ok then tell me how you would determine how "accurate" a recording of my strat into a marshall a given recording chain is when compared to the "original", what your ears are hearing come out of the amp.
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You never record what your ears hear, you record your signal chain.

In order to record what your ears hear, you would need a binaural head and some kick-ass converters. No EQ or compression.

Then, you would need a similarly flat playback system including flat headphones.

It's pretty easy to measure the signal going into a recorder and measure the signal coming out of a recorder and compare the two.

Once the mic turns it into electricity, it can be measured and compared. Music can't be measured, but AC voltage can. Physics is physics.
 
FALKEN said:
ok then tell me how you would determine how "accurate" a recording of my strat into a marshall a given recording chain is when compared to the "original", what your ears are hearing come out of the amp.
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That is very simple, you use a reference-quality mic in an anechoic chamber to create a baseline performance measure. To the extent that chain can accurately reproduce a reference signal, it can also be used to do comparative analysis with any other signal chain.

However I would not consider an ear to be the reference point. The ear is a subjective instrument that can evaluate audio quality, but it is not reliably repeatable enough to determine if two similar signals are substantially identical or not.
 
ok; suppose you could, by using these instruments, create a recording that on playback sounds identicalto the original...as though you are in the room with the musician.... i want that gear and I want to do it.
 
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