Group Buy Interest?

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drumzealot said:
CHANCE,

I suspect my ACM-6’s have loose ribbons or some other ailment. They are not usable. I was not able to take the mics apart and look at the ribbons so I sent them to someone who knows what they are doing and they will get back to me soon. They sound quite distorted and one of them makes a rattling noise when I move it. Something is loose inside.
I understand you ordered extra mics as replacements and the manufacturer is sending replacement parts for sagging ribbons. What do I need to do? These mics sound like poo.
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ACM-6 ? They haven't come out yet.
 
Well I talked to them yesterday and at the LEAST, we will get new ribbon material.
 
6802 Shock Mount

Anyone else having troubles w/ the Shock mount for the 6802T?

The Bands won't stay in the grooves. Once it's all in place... as soon as I touch the mic it all falls apart (the bands). The 310s work fine so far.

Any suggestions on material for DIY bands?

Thanks,
B.
 
yeah, I had the same problem with the 6802 shockmount because the bands are too loose. The mount has big hooks and smaller hooks that are supposed to hang on to the elastic, but because it's too loose, it falls out when the hook is upside down. Here's what I did: Take the elastic, and loop it double around each of the big hooks. There's plenty of slack to do that, and I haven't had any problems since. :)
 
Booda said:
Anyone else having troubles w/ the Shock mount for the 6802T?
The Bands won't stay in the grooves. Once it's all in place... as soon as I touch the mic it all falls apart (the bands). The 310s work fine so far.
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I took pliers and squeezed the hooks closed.
 
MichaelJoly said:
Perhaps in the context of a $60 group-buy mic $125 seems steep. But that figure is fairly common, and very fair price for a US-based technician to disassemble a ribbon mic, cut a proper-sized ribbon, corrugated it, install it, set resonant frequency properly, re-assemble the mic, test, pack and ship - and to carry out every step of the process in a timely and professional manner with guaranteed results. Check with Clarence Kane or Stephen Sank.
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Indeed, this price is steep. To my eye, even such simple operation as transformer replacement or grill layers removal are way overcharged.

Marik, who has been with ribbons for many years, who has tremendous experience, who has forgoten about ribbons (if he ever forgets anything) more than most of people will ever hope to learn, and from whose posts many of so called "internet gurus" were in fact, learning about ribbons... and he charges for the same work less and re-ribbons for under $100!
As his (happy) customer I can say his work is superb. He does things which nobody else can do.

Kind regards, Greg

P.S. Oh yeah, you can reach him at:
ribbonmic(at)comcast(dot)net
 
Yes Marik is indeed a good man. I learned so much from him. I'm starting to have second thoughts about another GB. I have no control over QC. As for the 6802 shock mounts, those hair band things work great. I've used them on my Neumann, AKG, etc. They're cheap and last a long time (even come in colors)
 
chance said:
...I'm starting to have second thoughts about another GB. I have no control over QC...
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couldn't you just leave ribbons out? that's where the most drastic quality control issues seem to be and there's a lot of competition for those, which is driving prices down anyway. they seem to have the most significant quality control issues.
i think a lot of people (myself included) would love to get some of your preamp and compressor designs and the other mics (i am (and i imagine many others) are very much looking forward to other capsules for the 310 that you referred to.
 
Regardless of whether it's ribbons, condenser mics or preamps, group buys don't offer or guarantee the Chinese manufacturers a consistant or regular flow of orders for specific models, etc., consequently, there's little real incentive for them to be overly worried about QC issues.

A "group buy" has bugger all leverage with these manufacturers as opposed to companies like Na*y, MXL, etc., who not only guarantee continuing business, BUT it's business in large quantities. In real terms, to these manufacturers, a group buy is just a fly-speck on an order form.

Personally, I fully understand Chance having second thoughts.

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it'd be neat to do something like someone orders 100, and you can buy them any time, and once a month a so the person could send them out for a profit of $5-10 each mic. just so that people didn't have to send code named emails at certain times of the year based on information spread out amongst an 88 page long post.

I'd be happy to give chance some profit just to make it easier to get ahold of these easily by simply an email and a paypal payment.
 
chance said:
I'm starting to have second thoughts about another GB. I have no control over QC.
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This is an awesome service you have offered all of us, whether or not you decide to do another one. If you're concern on QC is about the ribbons, I don't think you should feel too bad about it. Some people here can fix their own, others of us may learn to fix them or may pay to have them fixed and upgraded eventually. I don't really feel bad about my troubled ribbon(s). I would feel differently if I had paid 150 each for them :), but what we got was a great deal. And I couldn't be happier with the 6802. It's becoming my favorite mic for my voice.

The QC on the ribbons isn't just something from this GB, as M. Jolly has told us. And I hardly expected the manufacturer to replace all the ribbon motors, which seems like it would be a significant expense for them. If you do another GB and include ribbons, you should include the caveat that some of the ribbons have been loose in the past GBs, which would deter those who aren't willing/able to work on them or pay to have them worked on.

I think the pres and comps sound like a great idea, and you've got a great product in the 6802, the 583 and--from what I've heard--the 310. I understand if the whole thing is just too much of a headache to be worth it, but I don't think you should give up because of the ribbons.
 
Caotico said:
I think the pres and comps sound like a great idea, and you've got a great product in the 6802, the 583 and--from what I've heard--the 310. I understand if the whole thing is just too much of a headache to be worth it, but I don't think you should give up because of the ribbons.
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Wholeheartedly agree -- I was happy to be in the last few orders to ship, and I'm happy with all my GB stuff from this last one (including the opportunity to tension the ribbons myself, and my 6802 shock mount works fine :D) -- I've been looking forward to the pres/comps, and would definitely go for another 310 (and capsules) and a 583 or two.

We all need to face it, though -- the whole exercise has been a little too good to be true -- and that's because you, Chance, are absorbing the bulk of the hassle/work/headache. I was surprised you started up this last one, based on the prior one, and I'll be (really pleasantly) surprised if/when you start up the next one. We should all consider ways to reduce the hassle for you if you do. Maybe we can get a volunteer QC officer from the group (other than you) who will act as the primary collector of information and communicator with the plant, as your designate - you really shouldn't have to be in the middle of that, given all you're doing already.
 
Yup, Yup, and YuP..... We love ya chance and whatever else happens, happens.
Thanks for all your work on our behalf!
 
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