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I am what I would call green. I play acoustic guitar and sing as well. I am trying to figure out a few things. First, what would be a good low end/cost microphone to record both my acoustic guitar and my vocals at the same time? Second, what is the best way to go from a XLR microphone into my computers sound card? Adapters? What options are there? Lastly, any advice really appreciated. Thanks
 
Cross posting is not done on this BBS. If you have a question, one post in a appropriate forum should be enough.
 
Christian

Piss off. This was my first post to this board. I posted on 3 topics. I got 1 good reply to my question. I did not know your "no cross posting rule" I would not have followed it anyway. Just to piss off pinheads like you. At least I found one friendly soul out there willing to lend a little advice. You can keep your not so friendly board. :(
 
Well, there is a thing about cross posting, but maybe we can be helpful at the same time. Since this is the Other Equipment forum, let's talk about other equipment.

I'm a newbie, too, and here's my basic equipment list.

Dell computer thingie. Only real trick is to get the fastest disk drive you can afford. I bought a CD burner and there's a basic P III chip. I use the soundcard that came with it - a Sound Blaster "Value" (meaning they stripped stuff off). I'd avoid a computer with an integrated soundcard as part of the motherboard.

Small mixer. I have a Mackie, but there's a bunch out there. All you need to experiment is a couple of XLR inputs. A mixer will have a preamp. You might try to pick up an M-Audio Audio Buddy, which is a neat 2 - ch. preamp available for about $80, instead of a mixer. For me, the easiest way to go is with a little mixer, because I can visualize what's happening to the signal.

Shure SM57 mic (the standard) and a generic dynamic mic for a second. When I bought the Shure, I also picked up an Access 1 - Shure's no name "nearly a 57" type fifty dollar mic. I like it for vocals better than the SM57.

Go to the n-track forum on this board and read up on the program. Then click on the site and download. fifty bucks or so later, you own it. I figure there's not a more powerful bang for the buck out there.

That's it! Hook the tape outs from the board to the SB line in (not mic - there's a crappy preamp that gets in the way), set the SB to recognize the signal and you're off.

My stuff was at this page was all done on this setup. www.artistlaunch.com/treeline .

Now that I've begun to recognize what I really DON'T like, I'm ready for the next step - condenser mics, real preamps, dedicated units, studio grade computer interface, maybe even a new banjo.... Where'd I put that VISA card, anyway???
 
Re: Christian

nwpaddler said:
Piss off. This was my first post to this board. I posted on 3 topics. I got 1 good reply to my question. I did not know your "no cross posting rule" I would not have followed it anyway. Just to piss off pinheads like you. At least I found one friendly soul out there willing to lend a little advice. You can keep your not so friendly board. :(

With an attitude like that you won't get a lot of good advice from anyone here. Your loss.
 
Christiaan -

He had a point. Look at the other forums; he's getting answers. You're right about cross posting, but maybe were a bit hard on him?
 
Re: Christiaan -

Treeline said:
He had a point. Look at the other forums; he's getting answers. You're right about cross posting, but maybe were a bit hard on him?

Did it sound that bad what I said? Many people use much stronger words on this board when they notice cross posting. I don't think I said anything offensive. I was pretty mild, especially compared to what we are used to here.

I'll remember to put in a few smileys the next time, allright? :rolleyes:
 
Flaming Newbies, is an art. Leave that up to the artists dude.:D
 
I don't care about smileys, but a little substance in our response to the guy wouldn't have hurt anyone. Anyway, if flaming is supposed to be an art, then call me an art critic. :rolleyes:












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Egad; Did I actually say that? Eeewww!
 
How about like this....

Dear most appreciated :) and most loved newbie. :)
Though we love you with all our hearts :) and we would do anything for you,. :) Pweetty please :) post your question :) only once,.. huh?;)
Please don't be offended :) We are just asking :) and if you don't like being told this :) then ignore this stupid post :) I don't know what I'm talking about anyways. :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Remember, we love you. :)
 
what is wrong with people??

ya know, for every one post having to do with music there are four or five posts bitchin about posting in the right forum or cross posting.
just give the person your feedback, who cares what forum it's in. now i understand why it is important to post in the right place, but is it really out of hand enough to spend more time cryin about it than responding to a person? this isn't a recording forum anymore, it;s a "post in the right forum" forum. for all the time older members are telling newer ones to post in the right place they could be giving some real advice and feedback.
did you come here to complain or to advise and respond??
that is the question.
i have posted several times asking for feedback on songs and stuff and get nothing. not in this forum, but in drums and songwriting.
and people seem to be more intrested in telling me to post in the right place rather than giving any feedback.
i kinda rely on your feedback, folks. it's pretty important to me what you all think of my stuff, seeing as how you are just about the only musician community i know of.
i would love to hear someone tell me my songs sucks, at least they had an opinion about it. but they'd rather get anal about where it should have been posted and not say anything about the song at all.
that kinda tells me they don;t care, and thats a hell of alot worse than hearing they think the song sucks.
just my 2 cents, tell me if i should keep it to myself, at least you had something to say to me.
by the way, did i post this in the right place?? lol.
 
nwpaddler said:
I am what I would call green. I play acoustic guitar and sing as well. I am trying to figure out a few things. First, what would be a good low end/cost microphone to record both my acoustic guitar and my vocals at the same time? Second, what is the best way to go from a XLR microphone into my computers sound card? Adapters? What options are there? Lastly, any advice really appreciated. Thanks

Try stereo mic'ing your acoustic with a matched pair of omni condensors (Look into a pair of ECM8000's or similar)
For vocs, I've heard many praises for the C-1, but I tend to favor the the tonalities of the AT line of mics!
BTW, what is your budget!!??
 
Yeah, well, QQ will make ya (well, US) feel right at home.

:cool: :D :D :cool:

Hey, QQ! I can't afford the Mackie! What else? It looks like it's down to a D12 or a D1200! Maybe a D1600!! Maybe an AKAI DPS16! Maybe not...:rolleyes: Whaddaya think??
 
Green, get a small Mackie or Tascam console Maybe a four channel
Use an SM57 and mick your guitar and yourself. Go into Chan 1 of the board, then output the board via the Main outs (RCA to 1/8"mini to the line in on your computer.
And I have to agree with dcptnsdcvd. No Real World! More Audio!
It takes twice as long to bitch as it does to just plow through the problem. Practicality before Pride.
 
dcptnsdcvd said:
i have posted several times asking for feedback on songs and stuff and get nothing. not in this forum, but in drums and songwriting.

. . . i kinda rely on your feedback, folks. it's pretty important to me what you all think of my stuff . . .

Alright, then.

First off, this is just some advice, okay?

I'm not bitching, complaining, etc. etc.

And my advice to you is to go to the hair stylist when you need a haircut -- not the auto mechanic or the tire store. Go to the produce isle if you're looking for produce, not the frozen foods isle (unless you're looking for frozen produce, I guess).

The reason I make these suggestions is because I think you'll meet with greater success. And it will do you no good to complain to the Auto mechanic that he should be able to cut your hair or whatnot. Although I'm sure he could try, but probably not to your liking.

Similarly, if you're looking for advice on your mixes, go to the MP3 clinic. It's just due South a ways. I'm not saying that you shouldn't go to the drum clinic or wherever, just kindly advising you that you will probably meet with greater success in the MP3 clinic. Why that is, I don't know. :D

And on a related note, don't be afraid to ask people if they can stop by the mp3 clinic and give you some feedback. Once or twice, I've had people PM me with similar requests, and actually I was very honored ! It's a huge ego-boost to think someone holds you in high enough esteem to ask you your advice. So don't be bashful to ask guys like Crawdad, Barefoot, Cyan, etc. etc. etc. in a PM for their advice. They're all very polite and helpful people, and would be more than happy to help, I'm sure.

Good luck.
 
chessrock said:


They're all very polite and helpful people, and would be more than happy to help, I'm sure.


damn...there's that "polite" word again...:(

and I thought saying "all aboard" was enough... now ya gotsta be polite too... what will this world come to?
 
*tsk*
Ya have to have thick skin to hang out here.
When I first started posting on this BBS, I got flamed too, more than once!
That crap (getting flamed) is like water on a duck's back to me.

-Christiaan:
It didn't sound bad at all to me. I've taken worse.

-nwpaddler:
Try a Shure SM57. About $70 bucks at your favorite music store.
And guessing from your handle, you must be a kayaker in Washington state?
 
Yeah, don't worry about it. Your're not one of the gang till you've been slapped retarded a couple times.
 
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