Got my new Equipment

[Dracon]

DON'T TOUCH THAT!!!!!


Too late.

I didn't do it!

 

[christiaan]

Why the heck do you need a SATA? Do you have that much data in your hard drive or do you run a webpage of some kind?

Unless you have like an insane amount of data (1TB) or you are running at webserver or any other type of server at your house. There is no need to get either a SCSI or a SATA drive. It's a HD not a sports car, and the SCSI and SATA are very valuable for the IT industry (no more file servers chugging along) but 10,000 rpm are useless to homeusers.

Hold your horses.
I know you're in IT (and so am I) but I think you should look into this a bit deeper.
SATA drives are just like ATA drives with a somewhat different interface, a slightly higher price (maybe 10% more) and comparable performance. Most SATA drives are mechanically the same as their ATA counterparts and run at 7200rpm.
In time ATA will be replaced by SATA. Whether or not to go for old or new at this point in time... well, there is something to say for either choice.
But difference in cost is hardly an issue, that's for sure.

 

[Dracon]

Hold your horses.
I know you're in IT (and so am I) but I think you should look into this a bit deeper.
SATA drives are just like ATA drives with a somewhat different interface, a slightly higher price (maybe 10% more) and comparable performance. Most SATA drives are mechanically the same as their ATA counterparts and run at 7200rpm.

I'm not arguing that SATA will eventually replace ATA, just like DDR replaced SDRAM, and SDRAM replaced SIM.
The key though as you mention is the performance increase having hardrive in Serial versus a Parallel. However, 30 times faster performance does not mean much for the home user, unless like I said they are running a Server or something else that requires really high performance. However, in addition you would also benefit from dual processor, more memory.
Granted being that you are building your own computer, perhaps you want to be in-line with the technology trends, so that you will not suffer in the future, in the event you want to upgrade or replace a HD.
Anway, it does not matter either way. It's your computer and your project, I guess I was just on the rag last night as I was up posting at 2:00am.

 

[fraserhutch]

SCSI drives are nice in that I can share them with my synths, and in that I am not limited to 3 (realistically, you need a DVD drive). I have at times had up to 6 scsi drives on one bus.

I always share scsi drives between my audio system and my Kurzweil synths. I figure I have about 10 SCSI drives here, and I use them all. I use 3 for synths, one in my firewall system (IPCOP), another 4 for my linux systems and the rest are general storage in other systems, etc.

In systems where you want one DVD drive, one DVD read/write drive, and maybe a IDE zip drive, well, then you are limited to a single IDE drive. This is fine if you can affords to replace you current drive when you exceed its storage requirements, but why other when I can just toss in another scsi drive, partition and mount it? Not to mention, this way, I do not have to sdisturb my current intallation.

AND do not forget the cardinal rule that you, as an IT guy, should know - no matter how much CPU, RAM, disk space, whatever you have on your system, we will QUICKLY find a way to consume it all and need more. I have more RAM on the system I am typing on than I had RAM and ALL storage on my first PC.

Anyways, I do believe SATA drives will very quickly become indispensible on top-end systems, IMHO. As will, in time, 64-bit cpus.

My $0.02.

 

[Dracon]

In systems where you want one DVD drive, one DVD read/write drive, and maybe a IDE zip drive, well, then you are limited to a single IDE drive. This is fine if you can affords to replace you current drive when you exceed its storage requirements, but why other when I can just toss in another scsi drive, partition and mount it? Not to mention, this way, I do not have to sdisturb my current intallation.

I agree with you if you are buying a computer off the shelf or a barebones system. However, (and this was two years ago) I was looking at building my own system then and I found a motherboard that could handle upto eight devices at one time. It had four IDE connectors on the Motherboard, and at the time the board only cost $200.
So if you are building yourself a computer you can find them, but if you are doing all that then it's probably easier to find (I don't know I have not looked around) a Motherboard that supports SATA or add a controller card to a regular motherboard.

........ I have more RAM on the system I am typing on than I had RAM and ALL storage on my first PC.

Well my 1st pc had a 50MB HD. I had went all out, and gotten the new 3.5" Floppy drive, along with an outrageously fast modem (300Baud).
I remember the local BBS sysgod used to have 1GB of HD space and he had 100 HD.

Anyways, I do believe SATA drives will very quickly become indispensible on top-end systems, IMHO. As will, in time, 64-bit cpus.

Oh! No! Here we go again. What is 64-bit going to do for you? All that means is that the processor can read upto 64-bits at one time.
I agree with you efficiency is great, especially in such a workhorse that the computer is. Look, in my opinion the single best leap that has been done, has been under utilize. That is asyncronous processing.
No one writes, programs for it and it has invented a long time ago. Actually I lie, the Digital rendering software developers (The guys that made Monsters Inc. and a Bugs life) write their programs for mulit asyncronous processing.

 

[mattamatta]

Yo, congratulations on the success in getting some sounds you like. Recording is a pretty fun hobby, for me anyway (and I assume all the other people here have at least a love/hate relationship, maybe even a pure love relationship, with it).

But I warn you, it's a damn good excuse to spend a whole lot of money over the course of your life! Hehe, it's a fun ride though.

AT 19, I have probably 500-1k worth of gear I use for recording (including interface, mics, etc) and in the course of my life I plan to spend many many thousands on it.

But in a way, I'm paying for free music for life.... I tend to listen to my own stuff more than anything else.

 

[fraserhutch]

The fact that you found a mb that handles more than the standard 2 ide channels really means diddly - they are NOT the norm, whereas SCSI ad SATA drives are very much mainstreeam now. And, FWIW, I have build my own computer systems for about 10 years now, to my specs. Audio hardware, being the beast it is, does not always play nice with anything but mainstream boards, so I would never have considered using such a mb for an audio system. And I certainly would never recommend one.

Also,I am not going to get into an argument with you wrt 64 bit architetures. If you are in IT, as you say you are, and do NOT see the benefits to double bandwidth, then we have nothing to talk about as we are not in the same playing field.

And please do not tell me that no one writes programs that take advantage of asynchoronous processing - I do it ALL the time. Are you referring to this in software with OS support, or hardware?

That said, asynchronous processing is tricky for audio systems that strive for near real-time performance.

My $0.02.

 

[noisedude]

matta - you make me laugh ...

 

[mattamatta]

Why thank you noisedude.

 

[Dracon]

My $0.02.

OK! Back to music or recording equipment or something else, because we obviously see the world differently. As for playing fields, you are right. Being a sys admin working at Wall Street will not be the same as being a sys admin at a small business. I don't know where you work, and you don't know where I work. However, it does not matter it's all about opinion.

 

[Dracon]

I have probably 500-1k worth of gear
.... I'm paying for free music for life.... I tend to listen to my own stuff more than anything else.

LOL! That must be the most expensive free music you'd ever hear. Heck I think it's alot more expensive than music I have paid for.

I really enjoy the toys that home recording allows me to play with. I also gotta keep reminding myself that I'm not trying to be a Professional Studio in a week.

 

[noisedude]

LOL! That must be the most expensive free music you'd ever hear.

You could sell it to yourself on CD to recoup your costs

 

[Dracon]

You could sell it to yourself on CD to recoup your costs

Yeah, but then you'll end up ripping it to MP3 and giving them out to all of your friends, for half the cost and your just violated your own copyrights.