Good mic/PA setup for scream vocals

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I've been searching for quite some time on a good PA, but as I write this, I feel like it's not a PA that I need.

When I watch covers on youtube, people generally have the track they are covering mixed in with their own vocals from their mic.

What is a cheap and easy solution to this?

I recently sold my Shure SM58 because I was broke and needed cash, and I still have fast track pro back at my other home.

I used it a handful of times because I couldn't dedicate the time as I was still in college. I didn't enjoy using the fast track pro, and right now I don't even have it with me anyway.

I really want to peruse my love for music and see if I can take it anywhere. I'm 23 and I feel like its too late though.

I'd be happy to repurchase the SM58, or I've heard good things from the Samson Q8.

I feel like doing covers on youtube is cliche 'oh I have tattoos, I want to scream in a band' but I feel like its the best way to do it.


TL:DR, used to own a SHURE SM58, sold it. Need to repurchase a mic for scream vocals. Should I also get a PA? Which PA. Or should I stick to recording vocals through the computer.

Run me through the process of what I should have to be able to do covers on youtube and potentially help me find a band.
 
Hey,
What do you think you'd use a PA for?

If you just want to record vocal over backing tracks then a 58 (or any mic) and your fast track is the way forward.

For screaming vox a dynamic can be a great way to go. If you were happy with the 58 then go with it again.
If you feel you need to up the ante a little, there's a range of high class dynamics out there.
Google md421, sm7b, re20.
For youtube covers there's probably no need, all the same. I'm just letting you know.
 
Hey,
What do you think you'd use a PA for?

If you just want to record vocal over backing tracks then a 58 (or any mic) and your fast track is the way forward.

For screaming vox a dynamic can be a great way to go. If you were happy with the 58 then go with it again.
If you feel you need to up the ante a little, there's a range of high class dynamics out there.
Google md421, sm7b, re20.
For youtube covers there's probably no need, all the same. I'm just letting you know.

Thanks for your response.

I'm on a fairly tight budget, and I know the SM58 is very affordable.

I think my question would be much easier answered if I told you I'd just like to do the same thing this kid does:

youtube.com/ watch?v=rRiP_X9bxP4 (had to split up the link as I haven't had enough posts yet)

I assume he is using his mic hooked up to the PA. Has the music playing through his earphones and then records the video of him doing the vocals and then mixes the track with the video?
 
As far as I can tell the backing track is digital and the voice over is possibly amplified acoustically.
I don't see the advantage though, if that's what he's done.

I'd just have the mix playing through your speakers and record the vocal straight into your interface.
 
As far as I can tell the backing track is digital and the voice over is possibly amplified acoustically.
I don't see the advantage though, if that's what he's done.

I'd just have the mix playing through your speakers and record the vocal straight into your interface.

That's just it, I don't own speakers other than my laptop's built in speakers, and I also don't currently have my interface.

What do you mean amplified acoustically?

What equipment would I need to replicate what he is doing?
 
The cleanest way to do it is to get your interface and plug the mic into it.
Run the outputs to a hifi or some speakers or use headphones; That's just so you can hear what you're singing to.

Line up the backing track in your software and make a new track for vocals.
Mute the vocal track so there's no feedback, and record.

The people on youtube hear your backing track from your DAW and your recorded vocal.
 
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Okay I think I get it.

I also did a little searching, and I think that kid doesn't use an amp at all, so you were right; he just uses the mic for 'show' purposes.

I guess in all his videos he's in a room where his voice can bounce, and the fact that there is another track in the background after he is finished.

I feel like I would need a microphone hooked up to an amp/PA for it to sound good/better though.
 
Surely the gritty noise that you can get from certain mics is 1 reason?
 
Doing good, Henry. Jus about to clock off if you wanna take this one.

OP, a PA system won't help you to sound 'gritty'.
It'll just add an unnecessary stage to your signal path and probably make your vocal much less clear.
Depending on the acoustics of your room, it'd probably just sound muddy and messy.

On top of that, how would you record this PA's output? Are you going to buy two mics?
I'll leave you in Henry's ever capable hands.
 
Sorry I just couldn't help myself.

Steenamaroo has just about laid it all out for ya, onlyfox. :thumbs up:
 
Actually he logged off right after you last night.
 
You mention screaming in a band. To me this automatically means high stage volume. I would recommend a supercardioid like an EV 967 or OM 7. This should help slightly with the monitor feedback issues that are certain to happen until you get things dialed in.
 
You mention screaming in a band. To me this automatically means high stage volume. I would recommend a supercardioid like an EV 967 or OM 7. This should help slightly with the monitor feedback issues that are certain to happen until you get things dialed in.

You are on the money with this!!!
 
HEY HUH GANNA UST WAAAA OU OU HAET OU HAET NEM.

I guess this could be called lyrics?
 
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