Good Mic, Crappy Room

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So if im recording in a basement with a furnace, a couple computers, and other ambient sounds, is it even worth it to buy a decent Condenser mic?
 
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welcome to my world....

i'd say yes. try to put up some carpet all around where you'll be using your decent mics (or any mics for that matter)...as well as where you mix, etc.

but i'd be hesitant to get an omni mic...i'm afraid to get one myself because i think i'd get MASSSSSS extra noise...
 
You sound like you may have a room to build. Both of you.;)
 
carpet is too heavy and is crap... too expensive, get foam if your gonna do the cheap soundwave absorb trick..... its cheaper, easier to handle, and works better.


peace.
 
foam or carpet isn't going to soundproof. its just going to lower reflections.

you need to build a room!

Check out the acoustics 101 article on auralex's website. I think its www.auralex.com It will explain a lot! It will also freak you out about all the money you're going to have to spend.
 
Well, you could just turn everything unneccesary off. That is, if people in Michigan ever turn off their furnaces....?
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From the experiments of me and a couple other people, just adding a bit of any sound absoring-material isn't going to work. Put the computer on a roll-around cart, get long mic cables, do your actual recording in the best-sounding room you have, and during actual recording, wheel the computer cart into another room (-or, just going around a corner with it helps too).
 
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Reality Check: Trying to sound-insulate a room isn't practical for a lot of people, especially when the room must contain various household appliances that are noisy when running.
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Omni mics are useful, even under less-than-perfect conditions. What's a decent condenser cost these days? $50? $5000?
 
An omni pattern for noisey rooms is much less than ideal. Something far more directional pointed directly at the source is much more in order.
 
why couldn't you build a room, inside your basement? Like a 5x6 foot room, and then put the computer outside the room? Sure it will cost you a nice size wad. But it'll be worth it.
 
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tyler657recpro said:
why couldn't you build a room, inside your basement? Like a 5x6 foot room, and then put the computer outside the room? Sure it will cost you a nice size wad. But it'll be worth it.

because if you build a room inside room with the typical 7ft ceilings in a basement there won't be enough room left to allow you to stand upright without hurting your head. And the question was not about soundproofing, but about decent sounding rooms, ie acoustic treatment. It is generally accepted that anything less than 1500 feet^3 volume and less than 10ft ceiling high is not really suited to record acoustic music (although you can get away with smaller rooms, too). but even a big room can sound bad if the resonances aren't distributed evenly over the frequ. spectrum.
For more read here: http://www.sospubs.co.uk/sos/jul98/articles/acoustics1.html
or get the books from alton everest.
 
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hmm...i've always seen basements with at least 8ft cieliengs. but anyway, i don't think acoustics is going to help him get rid of the furnace and computer sounds. It might make them sound better, but it won't get rid of them.
 
tyler657recpro said:
hmm...i've always seen basements with at least 8ft cieliengs. but anyway, i don't think acoustics is going to help him get rid of the furnace and computer sounds. It might make them sound better, but it won't get rid of them.

Yes, but when he starts getting rid of the noises, he will still be confronted with a boxy sounding, small room. I haven't seen many basements that can be converted in a decent sounding room yet. More than 8ft ceiling in a basement is the great exception, IMHO, at least in the parts of the world I have lived so far...we have only 2.10m here
 
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