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Hey guys, I'm looking for an electronic drum set up to provide me with the very basics...snare, tom and cymbols. I want nothing fancy, and all I'm going to use them for is recording. My budget is around 500. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
Rocks!

You know, it's a lot cheaper if you just use rocks.

To be honest with you, I don't know anything about electronic drums, but I do know that rocks are sure dam cheap.

Mongoo
 
Thanks. I'll look into it. How would I go about getting the snare and cymbol sounds into my computer? Must I use a MIDI interface?
 
guitarmonkus said:
Thanks. I'll look into it. How would I go about getting the snare and cymbol sounds into my computer? Must I use a MIDI interface?

MIDI can be used to trigger sounds within your computer, or you can use the sounds within a device (such as the Roland). How are you planning to record these electronic drums?
 
I don't know. This is what I want to do..

I want to be able to hit these electronic drums (probably one of the Rolands), and it record directly on a track in my Sonar 4 Producer. I have no idea what sequencing means, or triggering....oh my.

I just want basic drums in my recording.
 
Ok- lemme try to help.

Many devices, such as keyboards, electronic drums, etc., use a digital language known as MIDI. This stands for Musical Instrument Digital Interface. MIDI is basically a way for devices to "talk" to each other.

When you strike an electronic drum pad it sends MIDI messages to the "sound module" of the device (aka the brain). The brain contains all of the actual "sounds" you hear, which could be anything - a cowbell, a snare, a dog barking, etc. or even a combination of sounds. Other messages include how loud to play that sound, for how long, etc.

So when you strike the pad, you are merely "triggering" the brain to play something from it's memory bank. Are you with me so far?

Many keyboards and drum machines contain sequencers. More often, a computer will handle this task. A sequencer is "basically" a device for recording, editing, storing and playing back these MIDI messages.

A huge benefit of using MIDI is in the editing capabilites. Let's say you record a drum beat using snare, kick and hihat. When you listen back you notice you're timing is way off. You can easily edit (fix) this in the sequencer, either by moving the notes where you want them or using "quantize", which aligns all the beats to a grid defined by the user. You can also easily change any of the sounds, say you decide you wanted the hihat to be a ride cymbal instead, etc.

Lemme know if this helps you understand triggers and sequencing better.

You also might be interested to know that there are several software packages that have tons of beats and drum machines built in. -Rez
 
RezN8,

It did help, sir. Mucho gracias.

I took your advice. My program (Sonar 4 Producer) has a TON of built in drum sounds and the such. I'm not interested in creating a drum "beat" (i mean a drum pattern that loops throughout my song). To me, they sound too sterile, and it sucks life out of my tunes.

My only problem is I want to be able to access them in a live recording, and hit something to put the sound into my recording like I would a normal recorded audio track. Is it possible to hook up triggers directly to my computer (no "brain", or sound module), and trigger, say a snare sound, into my recording?
 
Well maybe, you could use drumagog. But then you would be tracking every drum separately.

For 5 bills you can get a drum set and be done with it.
 
I want to track them seperately.

I am not a drummer, so I can't keep a rhythm going with all the drums, so I'll have to lay down all the tracks individually anyway.

What's a drumagog?
 
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