getting your song sent out?

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how would i go about sending a song out for musicians to see it? like is there a distributer I need to give it to and if a musician wants to use it he pays me or something? please give me some info on where i go to send my lyrics.
 
The typical path for songs that get on major label releases is:

Songwriter > Publisher > A&R Rep from label, Producer, or other important contact. There are exceptions, but rare. It has become more common over the last several decades for artists to write their own material. So that makes it even more difficult.

Indie artists might be a little easier to get at. Publishers still play a big role I would guess though. But I think it's a little more wide open here though. Unfortunately, it would be my guess that even a bigger % of indie artists write their own stuff.

Undiscovered talent is another option. If you just happen to know some people in some kick ass bands, you could work a deal with them to give them performance rights to your songs, you never know...they could end up getting a major or indie deal and there you are.

If you are writing lyrics only...that is a tough sell. No one really wants a half finished song. If that is the case, I suggest you hookup with someone and co-write. Pick someone who is good at writing the music part. Co-writing is a neat experience (one that I have just discovered recently). Definitely a good way to go, at least for awhile, for just about anyone.

I would also suggest finding a copy of "The Songwriter's Market". This book has listings for publishers so all genres all over the world (mostly in the US though). You can start beating the pavement and sending song demos out. WARNING...DO NOT SHOT GUN YOU DEMOS TO ANYONE AND EVERYONE. Call them up and get permission to send a demo in. Most publishers reject unsolicited material without even looking at it. Actually, I think it tells you in that book who accepts unsolicted material and who doesn't.

Start doing your own research. What kind of music do you mostly write? Is there an area in the country where most of that genre is produced? For me it is Nashville...and here I am. Major music centers are LA, NY & Nashville, but there are other areas that get hot at different times (like Seattle, Dallas...). Get the yellow pages for those areas you are interested in and start looking up publishing companies and call to get permission to submit and submission requirements.

Do your homework. The most important part of this is to write a killer song. There are so many "good" songs out there, that the only way to really break in as a writer is to come in with not one, not two, not three...but several "good" to "killer songs. That will get you noticed quicker. Study songwriting. As much as some folks don't like it, the only way to really make money as a songwriter is to write something other people want to listen to again & again & again. Study the craft. Learn how a good song is written. Learn the rules of you genre. Learn about song structure. Learn about rhyme schemes. Once you master those...then IMHO, you are qualified to break those rules when there is good reason.

Write, write, write, write.... Even the most successful writers have more commercially unsuccessful songs than successful ones. Once you learn the basics, you would be doing well to have one really good song out of 10 written. That ratio may be trimmed a bit as you gain experience, but not by a lot.

OK...I think I wrote enough. I hope some of the verbal diarrhea above helps :D

Oh & welcome :)
 
Yep....Jag says it like it should be here! Hehe....what HE said!! After you've read what's here...read it again!

Limoguy

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Artist-written material seems to be pretty darn close to a hard-and-fast rule in the rock/alternative/whatever genre (except for covers). Much less so in country or "pop."
 
OnTheBlackRock,
Where you at in NOVA, and how long have you been writing?

bd
 
Jagular nailed it! The only thing I would add to is the idea of hooking up with unknown performers. Another twist on that is that in exchange for some licensing you can get some decent demos which would otherwise be an expense to you starting out. The band/performer also get a something to send out as a demo, which could net you some eyeballing by labels, many of whom own to some extent publishers. It can work out well with some effort.
 
there's a book that will tell you a lot about the music biz and it is called" this business of music" you can get it on line, and it retails for approx $30..... also make sure that whatever you present is the best material you have and by "best" i mean best written, best sounding, best performance...best everything! cuz the first impression they're going to have of you is the one that counts most and it is on that CD you're sending!
good luck!
B
 
Are there risks involved with sending out recordings?

Has anyone heard of Hilltop Records? Any experience?
 
yes of course there are risks if your songs are not copyrighted. you can obtain a copy of the SR form from the library of congress, office of copyrights on the net or by phone..... i believe that it is www.libraryofcongress.gov but i am not sure. another way to quickly copyright your material is to send it to yourself in a sealed envelope with a receipt and make sure that they place a stamp with the date right in the middle of the sealed part so that in case you need to produce it in front of a judge they can see when it was mailed and that it hasn't been tampered with. do not open the envelope once you've received it.but still go through the copyright office.
hilltop records? SCAM!!!!!!!! do not fall for these companies that send you garbage promising this and that for a fee!!!!! real talent scouts don't want any money from you they will make money with you, so all of that stuff is garbage and you can place it where it belongs!
 
Mailing your songs to yourself will not hold up in court. Period. There is some serious danger in mailing your music to outfits like that.......not just copyright issues either, they are bloodsuckers and should be avoided like the plague! Here's the link to get you started with the copyright office.

http://www.copyright.gov/register/performing.html

Good luck,
bd
 
Thanks....I almost sent them a four song sample today. I am glad I asked. I have all my stuff copyrighted but I dont need the headache. Thanks again.
 
NEB said:
Thanks....I almost sent them a four song sample today. I am glad I asked. I have all my stuff copyrighted but I dont need the headache. Thanks again.

Yeah...if I remember correctly, I started getting those letters shortly after copyrighting my first song. They must create their mailing list from the copyright office records somehow. :)
 
they do... those are public records after all.

oh yeah i forgot you may want to join ASCAP or BMI as a songwriter and the could help you place your songs...if that's something you may be intrested in, can't hurt to look into it.
 
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