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drummerdoug86
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Does anyone know how to get that raspy sound when singing? Is it something you are just born with or what? Please help me out here.
jamal buchet
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hey dude i know for me when i sing...as i have had no formal training or anything..its just a matter of say maybe the song is at the upper end of your vocal range...i cant help but have that in my voice if im right on the verge of straining...im sure other "trained"..vocalists have little tricks..but thats just how my voice comes out...ballads..=nice warm vocal..rockin =harsh raspy vocals..anyway this prob doesnt help much but maybe it will
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jamal
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Axis
oompa loompa
I also need some help on this, I've heard sing from the back of your throat, thats helped me a little but not enough.
Anyone else want to give us some clues?
Anyone else want to give us some clues?
chrisharris
King of Bling
Take this with a grain of salt, but... I can sing clean, and I do on most of my recordings...but live is a totally different thing. It's almost comical how "cookie-monster-ish" I can sing at about 1:00 in the morning. Mine is a combination of vocal fatigue and 15 years of smoking and staying up WAAAAAY too late...
Um, I don't recommend taking up smoking or anything. But I HIGHLY recommend the vocal fatigue thing. Some of the greatest vocal takes ever were on Motown's label, at 3:00 in the morning, after an engineer forced Sam Cooke to sing a take for the 65th time in a row. I'm gonna' post about 10 seconds of a song that I'm working on right now and tell you that I sang it about 15 times before I hit the record button. If it's sort of what you're going for, cool. If not, then you've saved yourself a night of hoarsing yourself out.
I'll post it in :15 minutes and call it "Short Vocal Take."
www.nowhereradio.com/honestmango/singles
Laugh your ass of at my expense!!
-chris
Um, I don't recommend taking up smoking or anything. But I HIGHLY recommend the vocal fatigue thing. Some of the greatest vocal takes ever were on Motown's label, at 3:00 in the morning, after an engineer forced Sam Cooke to sing a take for the 65th time in a row. I'm gonna' post about 10 seconds of a song that I'm working on right now and tell you that I sang it about 15 times before I hit the record button. If it's sort of what you're going for, cool. If not, then you've saved yourself a night of hoarsing yourself out.
I'll post it in :15 minutes and call it "Short Vocal Take."
www.nowhereradio.com/honestmango/singles
Laugh your ass of at my expense!!
-chris
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drummerdoug86
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Hey Chris, thanks for doin that. It helped a little, although it wasn't the kind of "raspy" I was looking for. I'm looking for a Kurt Cobain kind of raspy. Thanks anyway.
jamal buchet
New member
man YER REALLY BELTIN IT OUT THERE!!!
cool but how far away from the mic do you have to be for that..?....can you see the mic from where you are??..lol..what am i supposed to doooooo......
cool but how far away from the mic do you have to be for that..?....can you see the mic from where you are??..lol..what am i supposed to doooooo......
jamal buchet
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well then if that didnt help im kinda raspy on this
http://www.nowhereradio.com/mynewhead/singles
the one called"one mistake ver3.0"...might help
jamal
http://www.nowhereradio.com/mynewhead/singles
the one called"one mistake ver3.0"...might help
jamal
chrisharris
King of Bling
AAAAaaahhh...I see. Then you're DEFINITELY going to have to start smoking.
Maybe throw a little smack into the mix, too.
(still kidding).
Kurt's deal was fatigue 90% of the time. He had a hard time with his voice live. I'm vaguely remembering an interview where he talked about how he was GREAT for about :20 minutes per show. After his voice got really warm, and before he threw it out completely. Scream at the top of your lungs for :20 minutes...as loud and as high as you can sing...then sing softly. The rasp will be there.
DISCLAIMER: The foregoing "advice" is not approved, condoned, or even considered to be "advice" by the American Vocal Society. It is hard on your voice, and after a number of years, you'll probably lose some range if you "sing" like this more than one night a week...but if you're still playing live 20 years from now, you'll be too good for a thrown voice to make much difference.
Maybe throw a little smack into the mix, too.
(still kidding).
Kurt's deal was fatigue 90% of the time. He had a hard time with his voice live. I'm vaguely remembering an interview where he talked about how he was GREAT for about :20 minutes per show. After his voice got really warm, and before he threw it out completely. Scream at the top of your lungs for :20 minutes...as loud and as high as you can sing...then sing softly. The rasp will be there.
DISCLAIMER: The foregoing "advice" is not approved, condoned, or even considered to be "advice" by the American Vocal Society. It is hard on your voice, and after a number of years, you'll probably lose some range if you "sing" like this more than one night a week...but if you're still playing live 20 years from now, you'll be too good for a thrown voice to make much difference.
chrisharris
King of Bling
Hey Jamal
Please tell me that I've already commented on how cool "Premature Evacuation" is in that song. I listened about a week ago, and if I didn't mention it...it's a very cool line. Yeah, not to get totally off topic here, but that tune is very cool in a RAMONES meet GREEN DAY meet ELVIS COSTELLO kinda' way.
One more thing...we're going to take that chorus-ish effect on your vocal and smash it up against the wall. Your voice is WWAAAYYYY too cool to fuck it up with that lame-ass, I-recorded-this-in-my-garage-effect.
(only your REAL fans will tell you the truth)
-chris
Please tell me that I've already commented on how cool "Premature Evacuation" is in that song. I listened about a week ago, and if I didn't mention it...it's a very cool line. Yeah, not to get totally off topic here, but that tune is very cool in a RAMONES meet GREEN DAY meet ELVIS COSTELLO kinda' way.
One more thing...we're going to take that chorus-ish effect on your vocal and smash it up against the wall. Your voice is WWAAAYYYY too cool to fuck it up with that lame-ass, I-recorded-this-in-my-garage-effect.
(only your REAL fans will tell you the truth)
-chris
participant
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doug,
Just assuming your music is of the heavy rock type. Consider Maynard James Keenan of Tool. That guy's voice is as clear as a bell (most of the time) and there's no way anyone would say their songs lacked... ahem... "balls"
That said, I'm in the process of training my voice with Roger Love's techniques. Yeah, the voice is trained to that "clear" type; when singing correctly, you'll have more of the clear tone. But I've found that by "pushing" slightly (pushing air), you get a little more edge to the voice.
Keep in mind that the "correct" method of singing means "not pushing". Hope this helps a little bit.
Chad
Just assuming your music is of the heavy rock type. Consider Maynard James Keenan of Tool. That guy's voice is as clear as a bell (most of the time) and there's no way anyone would say their songs lacked... ahem... "balls"
That said, I'm in the process of training my voice with Roger Love's techniques. Yeah, the voice is trained to that "clear" type; when singing correctly, you'll have more of the clear tone. But I've found that by "pushing" slightly (pushing air), you get a little more edge to the voice.
Keep in mind that the "correct" method of singing means "not pushing". Hope this helps a little bit.
Chad
chrisharris
King of Bling
Excellent point, Chad. By the way, I wanna' hear one of your MP3's now. RIGHT NOW. If your recording's are 1/50th as cool as your posts, I'm a fan. So let's hear it. RIGHT NOW.
-chris
-chris
jamal buchet
New member
Re: Hey Jamal
One more thing...we're going to take that chorus-ish effect on your vocal and smash it up against the wall. Your voice is WWAAAYYYY too cool to fuck it up with that lame-ass, I-recorded-this-in-my-garage-effect.
(only your REAL fans will tell you the truth)
-chris
ROFLMAO
hey look.....ther is a button om recorder it says "vocal effects"..i press it *presto*.......magic......
later
jamal
One more thing...we're going to take that chorus-ish effect on your vocal and smash it up against the wall. Your voice is WWAAAYYYY too cool to fuck it up with that lame-ass, I-recorded-this-in-my-garage-effect.
(only your REAL fans will tell you the truth)
-chris
ROFLMAO
hey look.....ther is a button om recorder it says "vocal effects"..i press it *presto*.......magic......
later
jamal
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drummerdoug86
New member
Thanks for all of the advice. I am going to try some different methods and hope one of them works. Perhaps I shall give smoking a try first. *Kidding*. Anyway, thanks for the help.
chrisharris
King of Bling
Re: Re: Hey Jamal
Well why didn't you just TELL me you were using the "vocal effects" button. If you've got one of those, then you've almost certainly got a "suck" parameter that goes with it. Pull back on the "suck" knob about 20dbs and you're THERE!!!
You crack me up. I swear, at this point, I'm convinced you're creating some of the best music I've heard on the internet by using nothing more than 3 rubber bands and a $4.00 fisher-price sing-along-tape-recorder.
hehehe
jamal buchet said:
Well why didn't you just TELL me you were using the "vocal effects" button. If you've got one of those, then you've almost certainly got a "suck" parameter that goes with it. Pull back on the "suck" knob about 20dbs and you're THERE!!!
You crack me up. I swear, at this point, I'm convinced you're creating some of the best music I've heard on the internet by using nothing more than 3 rubber bands and a $4.00 fisher-price sing-along-tape-recorder.
hehehe
jamal buchet
New member
ok stop with the "lets make jamal spit iced coffee all over his keyboard "..craplol
hey ......remember when this thread was about....what was it....raspy something?....im not sure....and yeah chad spends ll his time making sure we dont completely fuck up our stuff...which leaves little time for his own.....
fuzzy bunnies
jamal
hey ......remember when this thread was about....what was it....raspy something?....im not sure....and yeah chad spends ll his time making sure we dont completely fuck up our stuff...which leaves little time for his own.....
fuzzy bunnies
jamal
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theron
New member
What the hell has taken place here???
Cobaine Raspy plugin? If you want raspy and birth didn't provide it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,earn it.
As far as techniques go...Sing till you bleed from the diaphram but hold it all back till it leaks out of your lower throat. If you're still not happy, change the way you feel about "raspy".
as always, just some doltish thoughts
Theron.
Cobaine Raspy plugin? If you want raspy and birth didn't provide it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,earn it.
As far as techniques go...Sing till you bleed from the diaphram but hold it all back till it leaks out of your lower throat. If you're still not happy, change the way you feel about "raspy".
as always, just some doltish thoughts
Theron.
jitteringjim
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I think most everything's been covered here:
Smoke too much - 2 packs a day minimum, though I get by on a pack & 1/2.
Drink too much - hard liqour only. Straight, no chaser is best - but just starting out there's no shame in throwing a little water behind the fire.
Push from your diapram for projection, but bottleneck it at your throat. That'll put some nodes on you quick. Eventually your cords will be so shredded you won't need to bottleneck. You know you're on the right track when 1. your throat starts to bleed; or 2. you gag/puke on your own words.
I bear no responsibility for what happens using my method. It's best that you don't try this at home or anywhere else for that matter.
Smoke too much - 2 packs a day minimum, though I get by on a pack & 1/2.
Drink too much - hard liqour only. Straight, no chaser is best - but just starting out there's no shame in throwing a little water behind the fire.
Push from your diapram for projection, but bottleneck it at your throat. That'll put some nodes on you quick. Eventually your cords will be so shredded you won't need to bottleneck. You know you're on the right track when 1. your throat starts to bleed; or 2. you gag/puke on your own words.
I bear no responsibility for what happens using my method. It's best that you don't try this at home or anywhere else for that matter.
Qwerty
New member
JitteringJim has hit the nail on the head.... besides is a moveable feast -
By the time you have spent enough time doing the above advice to get the raspy voice, you will have grown out of punk 'n' roll and begin to want to sing more, shall we say, musically challenging vocal melody lines.......at which point in time you will realise you no longer can sing cleanly.......
<aaaaAAAAAHhheeeMMM..............mucus hits the spittoon dead centre again>
By the time you have spent enough time doing the above advice to get the raspy voice, you will have grown out of punk 'n' roll and begin to want to sing more, shall we say, musically challenging vocal melody lines.......at which point in time you will realise you no longer can sing cleanly.......
<aaaaAAAAAHhheeeMMM..............mucus hits the spittoon dead centre again>
chrisharris
King of Bling
BREAKING NEWS!!!
Yeah...if my earlier comments seemed like some kind of endorsement for throat destruction through lack of technique, they weren't intended that way.
Just in case anybody's still reading this thread, the part I mentioned earlier where I'm yelling my head off is at 3:44 in "Supposed to Do," which is up right now on the link I posted earlier.
Yeah...if my earlier comments seemed like some kind of endorsement for throat destruction through lack of technique, they weren't intended that way.
Just in case anybody's still reading this thread, the part I mentioned earlier where I'm yelling my head off is at 3:44 in "Supposed to Do," which is up right now on the link I posted earlier.
TexRoadkill
Audio Bum
I'm with Jim on this one. There is no substitute for honest, hard living.