Getting a clean voice

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ecktronic said:
I read that he also holds the mic in his hands when recording and puts it right up to his mouth to sing.
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Probably why he records with an SM57, no engineer will let him near any expensive mics. :D
 
Kevin DeSchwazi said:
Probably why he records with an SM57, no engineer will let him near any expensive mics. :D
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lol!
I could just see it.
The engineer has just purchased a premium tube Neumann and then Anthony slevers all over it and shorts the circuitry!

Eck
 
ecktronic said:
lol!
I could just see it.
The engineer has just purchased a premium tube Neumann and then Anthony slevers all over it and shorts the circuitry!

Eck
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I read an article last night with the engineer that did Blood Sugar. He said the Kick was mic'ed with a U47. :eek:
 
Nightfire said:
The voice is not coming out clear enough. I added compression (dont really know what that does) as well as basic mid boost in acoustica mixcraft.
Mike
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First off, It's time to begin your study of compression. It's tricky so don't think a quick primer someplace is going to cut it.

For instance, many VCA types will add a great deal of harmonics to the low frequencies ,especially with high compression settings with a slow release. 160hz-320hz is "the mudrange" not something you usually want to accenuate on a vocal :(

as far a getting a clean voice, why are you boosting the mids??? 320hz to 1280 (part of the spectrum that's part of the "telephone voice" area) is going to make it honkey and tubby and wooley ( ya , trying to describe sounds with words is tough!)




Good Luck :)



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Give the mic room to breathe. Eating the mic is no good. Don't use the eq on that behringer crap. Record flat and eq when you're mixing it. Experiment with distance and placement of the mic and find it's sweet spot. You're using crappy tools, but you can get a decent sound with anything. Once you get your current setup sounding good, sell everything you own and start buying gear like a fiend in a crackhouse.

Another thing, don't listen to anyone talking that crap about "needing a condenser mic" On a budget there are many "industry standard" dynamic mics to be had, that have recorded platinum selling vocal tracks. I don't think I can say the same for the comparably priced condensers. Off the top of my head I can name U2, Alice in Chains, Michael Jackson, The Killers, Slayer, and Red Hot Chili Peppers that have used SM57's, SM7's, or Beta 58's for studio vocals.
 
ez_willis said:
I read an article last night with the engineer that did Blood Sugar. He said the Kick was mic'ed with a U47. :eek:
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Yeah then resampled probably. ;)
Not that Im saying the drummer needs to have his drums resampled as hes a shit hot drummer. Very tight and dynamically solid.

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Hey Nightfire - do I have to be your myspace friend to listen to the music on your myspace page or what? I can't find a link anywhere on that page...

I hate myspace.
 
Wow thanks for all the input guys, really appreciate it!
Sorry it took a while for me to retrack the vocals, take a listen
www.myspace.com/mikeduerksen
No you dont have to be a friend, I just didnt post the song until now 'cause I tried retracking the vocals.
This is recorded with the Lo-Cut on the behringer board activated. I still had too much low fuzz/rumble (hard to describe) so I did a lo-cut in Mixcraft as well.
Ignore the tempo, this is just a rough copy until I figure out how to set all the levels right and get a clean voice.

Thanks,

Mike
 
ez_willis said:
It is if the room is shit.
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Yeah good point, I think there's a middle ground between 'close micing' and 'eating the mic' though.
 
ez_willis said:
It is if the room is shit.
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also, you must take into consideration the degree to which your going to compress : hello low level ambience! :p :p




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DAS19 said:
I dont know which recordings he used an sm57 but I know on all of the newer stuff he used a better shure dynamic (forgot the model) not a 57.
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SM7 as far as I know, same as Matt Embree from RX Bandits, I really like them - they've got a great 'beefy' sound.

But yeah, sing your song with confidence and experiment with positioning until you can afford some better gear - I would also advise against messing with EQ/compression to fix problems, they should be used to make a good recording sound great, not a bad one sound OK...
 
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