Get bass to sound in ear buds

[ermghoti]

Yeah man thanks, the reason for me thinking about non-critical listening is that when/ if someone puts my music on their ipod/Zune/what have you, they are most likely not going to be critically listening to it, which is why I was trying to make it sound as good as it can through some generic buds. I hope that makes sense at least, in a nutshell, it's not for me, its for everyone else, who don't have 280's or etyomics or anything else.

Cheers!

Right, but until you've compared what similar, commercially-produced music sounds like in the crappy buds, you're swinging at a ghost.

 

[Terra]

On my system (NS-10m's + subwoofer) the bass sounds like it could be boosted. To my ears, there's not enough sound in the 40 - 80 Hz land, that's where your fundamentals are.

Understanding the harmonic series is crucial. The harmonic series and time are all there are in sound, nuts and bolts wise. You should get so you can hear a truck going by or your dog howl and know what's going on with the harmonic series.

The harmonic series and time - that's all there really is, everything is of that.

well god damn. thanks so much! My problem is that my HD 280's arn't broken in yet, so I can't monitor the bass with much accuracy, AND my alesis 520 actives don't put out any of that range. Thanks dinty for the input, I will boost it up!

On a second note, how would i go about practicing learning the harmonic series? any tips?

cheers!!

 

[Terra]

Right, but until you've compared what similar, commercially-produced music sounds like in the crappy buds, you're swinging at a ghost.

true, true. I love mixing audio so much, simply because its moments like this where you felt you have a grip, but in reality, you don't have any understanding compared to the vast amount of knowledge and expertise out there. It's a never-ending journey with a million rewards and a billion challenges.

 

[The_Salesman]

Little off topic but I just gave some of your tracks a listen and I loved Diffused Light (has kind of a Amon Tobin sound), but why did you break off from that beautiful sample (?) at the beginning?

Oh, and Apple Buds are the worst of the worst, but if you listen to anything comparable to your sound they all lose there bass on the buds. If "Boards of Canada" can sell on itunes you should be fine.

 

[moresound]

On my system (NS-10m's + subwoofer) the bass sounds like it could be boosted. To my ears, there's not enough sound in the 40 - 80 Hz land, that's where your fundamentals are.

Understanding the harmonic series is crucial. The harmonic series and time are all there are in sound, nuts and bolts wise. You should get so you can hear a truck going by or your dog howl and know what's going on with the harmonic series.

The harmonic series and time - that's all there really is, everything is of that.

Dinty is my new favorite philosopher.

 

[dintymoore]

Dinty is my new favorite philosopher.

now you got me worried...

Terra as far as the harmonic series... there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) which can get a little heady...

I like this pic of a string vibrating:

Let's say that string was the low E string on a 4 string bass. The top string in that pic would be the whole string vibrating and that would give you the main "E" sound, that's the fundamental. The one under that is the string vibrating in two equal halves. Sometimes you can even see that, and it gives you an E but an octave up. The next one is weird, it's the string vibrating in 3 equal parts, and that gives you a B note.

When you mix, getting the fundamentals strong, especially on the bass, without getting the next two harmonics too strong is important. Otherwise it will sound boomy, and all that extra boominess will stop you from being able to get your tracks sounding clear.

You can hear cars with crappy subwoofers and the song is supposed to be have an E note in the bass, but because the system is so junk it actually puts out the 3rd harmonic, a B louder than the low E.

Playing a trumpet or trombone is one of the best ways of learning about the harmonics series.

Stuff like the names of notes and chords is man made, made-up stuff. But the harmonic series is real life physics. You can hear it when dogs make funny sounds. Scientists say it is keeps the planets in their positions.

This is salt on a table being vibrated at different frequencies:

 

[Terra]

Little off topic but I just gave some of your tracks a listen and I loved Diffused Light (has kind of a Amon Tobin sound), but why did you break off from that beautiful sample (?) at the beginning?

The string part? yeah I don't know, that song isn't even finished, hence the mix sucking...I need way more work to do on that song, but thanks for the input man!

 

[Terra]

now you got me worried...

Terra as far as the harmonic series... there's this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_series_(music) which can get a little heady...

I like this pic of a string vibrating:

Let's say that string was the low E string on a 4 string bass. The top string in that pic would be the whole string vibrating and that would give you the main "E" sound, that's the fundamental. The one under that is the string vibrating in two equal halves. Sometimes you can even see that, and it gives you an E but an octave up. The next one is weird, it's the string vibrating in 3 equal parts, and that gives you a B note.

When you mix, getting the fundamentals strong, especially on the bass, without getting the next two harmonics too strong is important. Otherwise it will sound boomy, and all that extra boominess will stop you from being able to get your tracks sounding clear.

You can hear cars with crappy subwoofers and the song is supposed to be have an E note in the bass, but because the system is so junk it actually puts out the 3rd harmonic, a B louder than the low E.

Playing a trumpet or trombone is one of the best ways of learning about the harmonics series.

Stuff like the names of notes and chords is man made, made-up stuff. But the harmonic series is real life physics. You can hear it when dogs make funny sounds. Scientists say it is keeps the planets in their positions.

This is salt on a table being vibrated at different frequencies:

HOLY shit. that was cool, thanks for the small lesson man, I'm going to focus on this more in the future.