Garage studio build help

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So I have a 25' by 10' garage which I plan on transforming into a studio/jam space for my band. The main issue is that I live in a relatively small neighborhood so im going to need to isolate the noise as much as possible without spending tons of money of course. The only problem is that im not exactly sure what the right way to do it is. It has a concrete floor and no insulation currently. From what ive read the best way to go about it is to make a room inside of a room. I just need a little guidance on what materials should be used, how to build it correctly..etc. Thanks
 
Well lots of info on this site for sound proofing i can start you off maybe. insulate the walls then put up another wall infront of that wall with and air gap in between. insulate the roof aswell. be sure the door is solid and properly sealed. double door if possible. that should atleast deaden the sound a bit. also it will shrink your room. if double walls dont work for you insulate and double sheetrock will help. basically you need air tight to get sound proof. also have some stuff in the room to absorb some sound. couches bass traps a cloud on the roof.
 
How much of a gap should i have between walls, also would any insulation work? I would assume thicker would be better. Oh and what exactly is a cloud on the roof lol im a newbie still
 
Your other option if you don't have the funds to do it right is to use a headphone Hub Everyone connected the only sound besides picks hitting strings would be the drums. I know not the same as live amps but quieter and you can practice later in the night
 
guitarchris02 said:
So I have a 25' by 10' garage which I plan on transforming into a studio/jam space for my band. The main issue is that I live in a relatively small neighborhood so im going to need to isolate the noise as much as possible without spending tons of money of course. The only problem is that im not exactly sure what the right way to do it is. It has a concrete floor and no insulation currently. From what ive read the best way to go about it is to make a room inside of a room. I just need a little guidance on what materials should be used, how to build it correctly..etc. Thanks
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First, find out how much isolation you need in decibels and build accordingly. Have a look at the wall partitions in ir761 available via my publications page to figure which way to build.. more isolation - more expense.

Find out HOW MUCH you need FIRST. Then go about raising the money to do it right. - Otherwise you may just be spinning your wheels.

guitarchris02 said:
How much of a gap should i have between walls, also would any insulation work? I would assume thicker would be better. Oh and what exactly is a cloud on the roof lol im a newbie still
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I'll answer this question after you find out the information that I requested above. ;)

Cheers,
John
 
To the original poster, I'd just point out that in post 5 he's had an offer of help from a genuine acoustic consultant. If it were me, I'd grab onto this offer with both hands. People trained in acoustics are worth their weight in gold--I come from the sound engineering side and have always enjoyed my collaboration with the specialists when I've been involved in creating new studios.

On the basics, I think it's worth saying that simply slapping up lots of insulation is not the way to go about creating "sound proofing". In reality, this comes from three basic things:

-Mass--i.e. heavy walls of concrete blocks or gyprock panelling.

-De-coupling--in the "box within a box" concept, having no physical connections to transmit vibrations between the inner and out walls. This can get tricky when considering things like cable conduits, ventilation and so on.

-Eliminating gaps that can create "leaks"

The document that jhbrandt recommended on his web site contains some very good suggestions for the construction of the necessary panelling--it looks like a Canadian version of a British one that I used to use frequently.

Bob
 
so ive been thinking that im on a semi tight budget so maybe the room inside a room idea might not be as cheap as i would like, what if i just built a wall with a gap on each side of the garage that the neighbors are on and just insulated the hell out of it and used multiple sheets of drywall. Ive heard of mlv on hear too but never really got any good feedback, is it worth the price? Of course i would also use bass traps, a new door..etc. Would this be enough to kill off a good amount of outside noise?
 
Unfortunately, sound has no respect for your little "side walls" and will simply go around them, laughing all the way.;)

There really are no shorcuts when it comes to "soundproofing".

You will have to follow the previous advice if you are serious and don't want to do this three times.

Sound treatment OTOH is another subject altogether, and in that realm shortcuts are abundant.
 
change of plans haha i managed to score all the 2x4s ill ever need for free, and ill be getting some free insulation too so building the room inside of a room is going to work! Ill update with pics and such soon.
 
guitarchris02 said:
change of plans haha i managed to score all the 2x4s ill ever need for free, and ill be getting some free insulation too so building the room inside of a room is going to work! Ill update with pics and such soon.
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Well, that's wonderful news! Now all you need to do is figure out how much isolation you need. ;)
- John
 
John, I sometimes wonder how you manage to keep a straight face when you repeat your simple first step requests. It's like being back in school when the person being asked the question looks blank and yet everyone else has their hand up as they know the answer.
 
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John, I sometimes wonder how you manage to keep a straight face when you repeat your simple first step requests. It's like being back in school when the person being asked the question looks blank and yet everyone else has their hand up as they know the answer.
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Haha! - What makes you think I have a 'straight face'? :P

- I do enjoy what I do & I hope that it helps someone - even if it's not the person I am answering on a post...

- John
 
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