FS Custom built silver clad XLRs and Interconnects

[BigRay]

This is for a buddy of mine. I use his cables in every part of my recording chain, and the difference that was achieved when I swapped my canares and Audio Magic cables out for these You have to hear to believe. It is ASTOUNDING.

Introducing the Segue Enterprises Dogstar silver-clad cable line.

I've started making silver clad cables, in addition to the SBM1 mods I'm doing. These cables are modeled somewhat after the Audiomagic hyperconductors silver-clad mic cables that I used to own, and probably sound fairly similar.

In particular, the Dogstar line will feature:

-Military Grade silver clad copper wire with silver clad copper shield (MIL-W-16878)
-4 conductor, quad design: 2 conductors per signal wire, 21 AWG total
-teflon dielectrics: extruded teflon shield on each conductor, teflon tape outer jacket
-black techflex braided sheathing for added durability
-High quality Neutrik XLR connectors
-very low cable capacitance and inductance due to teflon dielectrics
-Hand soldered with silver-bearing solder, with a life-time guarantee



Teflon makes for a great dielectric, and as such these cables have a very low capacitance per foot, and low inductance, making them crystal clear. I've been using them in my playback system and I find the highs to be very smooth and natural with lots of clarity, a great deal of detail in the mid and low end, and a tight, full bass that isn't bloated. These will be a very noticeable step-up from pure copper cables, IME.

As to prices, I'll be offering these for $115 shipped for the basic 15' pair with straight XLR connections. Exact prices will depend on your particular configuration. Cables can be custom made to fit your needs -- length, straight XLR connectors, right-angle XLR connectors, etc., just let me know.

Please contact me if you have any interest, and we can discuss what you need and work out an exact price.



Contact me if you want something. I thought id promote his work. He has a degree in EE, and his craftmanship is superb. Again, the difference these make is INSANE. These sound better than the audio magic cables which are twice as much!

contact me at raytheapostle@yahoo.com

trb

 

[BigRay]

A picture of a group of his cables and interconnects.

He stands by these for life, but they are so awesome and well built you well never have problems with them., they add so much to recordings!

 

[easychair]

Something I've never understood, how a thin covering of silver or gold does anything to improve a cable that is still, after all, made of copper.

And you may want to change the line that says

"Introducing the Segue Enterprises Dogstar silver-clad cable line. Cheesy"

Cheesy means crappy or bad in English.

Good luck. You seem to have some good knowledge, but I am firmly in the camp that says expensive cables like these are pretty much bunk.

 

[BigRay]

Something I've never understood, how a thin covering of copper or gold does anything to improve a cable that is still, after all, made of copper.

And you may want to change the line that says

"Introducing the Segue Enterprises Dogstar silver-clad cable line. Cheesy"

Cheesy means crappy or bad in English.

Good luck. You seem to have some good knowledge, but I am firmly in the camp that says expensive cables like these are pretty much bunk.

First of all, nice deduction of points. Second of all, I am not advertising for myself. I have nothing to gain from advertising the cables. NO SHIT that cheesy means crappy. I am American.I am stationed here in Germany, but I am American. I was quoting my friends post about the cables and apparently copied half of a post. . Like I said, I have nothing to gain from the cables selling. I use the cables myself,use them exclusively, but have nothing as far as monetary gain to get from them selling. Before you are so quick to judge and deduct points, please read the entire post. And my friend is hardly a dealer, but a recordist/taper/audio geek/home studio guy like everyone else here. I am merely posting info about them because I believe they sound really great, much better than monster cable and standard brands. Your opinion is just that, but you know absolutely nothing about how they sound, and are basing your judgement on what??? I will gladly lend someone one of the cables to try out and compare. So is this how it works here??Someone offers up advice to help the community, and a grassroots product, and gets labeled a DEALER!!What the hell?? I dont "deal" Like I said, my friend is not a dealer, makes these by hand in his own house, makes just enough to cover overhead. Man, that was a quick judgement if I have ever seen one. And yes, they do sound MUCH better than stock cables. That is a fact. Broader soundstage, tighter bass, better trebles and mids. Opinion is just that. Facts need no back up. And again, I am AMERICAN. I only work in Germany.
So you are entitled to your opinion. It is wrong, but you are entitled to it.
If someone wants to do an A-B, let me know. Sorry if someone misconstrued my offering a product for my friend as a moneymaking scheme. It is certainly not. I have nothing to gain from it. I can see firsthand that they work better than stock cables, so I thought maybe someone would be interested in a cable upgrade. Can someone tell me the harm in that?

trb

 

[BigRay]

and if someone seriously wants to do an A-B, let me know.

they blow the standard copper/monster/radio shack BS out of the water. After all, the proof is in the pudding.

Once again though, let me reiterate that I in no way had anything to gain from talking about my friends cable making. Not one penny. A business man I aint. Honestly just came across a great product and thought the community would benefit from it(this is a community right??) And if you think cables dont make a difference, I would have to say you are dead wrong. I dont believe a lot of the Audiophile BS floating around either, but from experience I can say that quality cables and burn in DO make a difference. I would ask that you not be so quick to judge others. One day you will be in the drivers seat when it happens. Implying that I am in someway part of a con is pretty damn insulting. Completely uncalled for.

trb

 

[easychair]

Hey, I didn't hit you with any negative rep, nor do I give a rat's ass about your reasoning or rationale for posting. I would have posted the same thing if this were in a thread about mic cables.

 

[treymonfauntre]

was there a post deleted in this thread or something? you just got so worked up and defensive and nothing hostile was even said by easychair.

 

[easychair]

was there a post deleted in this thread or something? you just got so worked up and defensive and nothing hostile was even said by easychair.

I think someone gave him some bad rep and called him names.

 

[BigRay]

Hey, I didn't hit you with any negative rep, nor do I give a rat's ass about your reasoning or rationale for posting. I would have posted the same thing if this were in a thread about mic cables.

My apologies man, it wasnt directed at you, more so someone that pmd me.

Got a little worked up over something I shouldnt have.

I was more pissed that someone called me a dealer though, because I honestly have nothing to gain. I will take things more lightly in the future. I guess it is a natural reaction when new to a community to be sort of defensive. Wont happen again. I intend to be a good resource to this community, not start fights from here on out.
seriously though, if someone wants to listen to the XLR and compare just for the heck of it, I will send one of mine out. they really do make a difference.
trb

 

[easychair]

I was more pissed that someone called me a dealer though, because I honestly have nothing to gain. I will take things more lightly in the future. I guess it is a natural reaction when new to a community to be sort of defensive. Wont happen again.
trb

Hey, props for defending yourself. Most of the crap that get slung around here isn't that bad, I hate the anonymous bad rep thing, though.

 

[BigRay]

I am a work in progress.

thanks man.

 

[FALKEN]

This thread got me thinking.

 

[mshilarious]

Hey, props for defending yourself. Most of the crap that get slung around here isn't that bad, I hate the anonymous bad rep thing, though.

Let's back up a step--I signed that rep.

This is a dealer thread, I don't care if BigRay isn't the dealer. There is nothing wrong with being a dealer, we have many that hang out here. There is nothing wrong with plugging some gear you like in a thread on another board where somebody is talking about mic cables, or whatever.

However, this board has this instruction:

Private parties only, please (no dealers or SPAM)

And the OP basically slathered ad copy all over his post. Not cool.

Tell your friend to buy a banner ad--at $115 a cable, I think he can afford it. Then if somebody on the Mic board asks where they can spend too much money on a cable, feel free to steer 'em to your friend.

 

[BigRay]

My friend is not a dealer. He has a day job, and does that in his spare time.
it isnt 115 a cable(see , again, a matter of wrong information). its 115 for a 15 foot pair. He is far, FAR from being a dealer. and I couldnt be further. this is a private party. once again, let me reiterate, my friend is not a dealer. hes an average joe audio guy helping out other audio people. calling him a dealer would be a huge lie. dealer implies mass production of items.a business centered around those items. he doesnt advertise because he doesnt want to mass produce. he has no interest in dealing. like I said, hes just a normal guy with a regular job, and does this in his spare time. he has no website, barely makes enough to cover the materials and time it takes. was simply tired of having to deal with those idiots at monster cables(which are garbage, now THERES a company that is dirty) and wanted to make a product for a small group of people (not massive amounts of people)who want a cable upgrade in line with the Audio Magic/Luminous Audio products for a 1/4 the cost. But whatever, I dont care to waste my time on this any more. I have been in the music business a long long time, and to see people jump to conclusions and make rash judgments about me over a favor for a friend to benefit the community...well, is just silly.I have no interest in taking anyones money , have more than enough for myself. I saw that they made a big difference to me so I wanted to announce it and maybe help some one out.. . and FWIW, my friend didnt even mention to me to announce the stuff here. I told him I was going to fluff his product whenever I could. So, you are wrong. it isnt "ad copy" I use a product, I love the product. I mention that I have a friend who makes them...big deal. Live and let live , who cares?. Quit being so damn quick to judge. The farthest thing from my mind is screwing people over. I am trying to help out here by announcing something that really made a dramatic difference in my rig.. And if you think the cables are overpriced,that is cool. Just dont slander them if you havent heard the difference. Some people thing paying 800 dollars for a 10 foot cable is worth the money. Others think that a plastic coated aluminum cable from radio shack will work fine...BUT Do you think a cable is just a cable?I am positive that in a controlled enviroment with all factors being the same, including mic, , mic config, placement, etc..and the only difference being the cables I use and a standard monster/radio shack cable, that mine will sound much better. I can tell you without a shadow of doubt that every piece of the chain makes a difference. If you cant afford the cables then ok. However the people who can afford them and have swapped them out have noticed a dramatic difference. Anyway, the damn cables arent even the issue any more. THe habit of railing new people and being so quick to judge is disturbing. You dont know me from Adam, so dont assume anything of me. If you had a question about what I was posting, if it seemed funny, then why not ask for clarification instead of "repping" right off and making smart ass comments? I wouldve looked at it,apologized, made corrections, and moved on. It was certainly not my intent to come here and make a killing for my buddy, as he would certainly turn down a big order any way. I figured someone though could use a cable upgrade..I have thoroughly read the guidelines. In no way have I violated any policy. Once again, neither my friend(electrical engineer) nor myself(US Army Diplomacy Rep) are dealers . Thank God I am in the Army and am used to Bullshit or this would probably be upsetting. Just a word of advice though. Dont assume anything. Investigate. Gather facts, then make an informed opinion. Later.
trb

Let's back up a step--I signed that rep.

This is a dealer thread, I don't care if BigRay isn't the dealer. There is nothing wrong with being a dealer, we have many that hang out here. There is nothing wrong with plugging some gear you like in a thread on another board where somebody is talking about mic cables, or whatever.

However, this board has this instruction:



And the OP basically slathered ad copy all over his post. Not cool.

Tell your friend to buy a banner ad--at $115 a cable, I think he can afford it. Then if somebody on the Mic board asks where they can spend too much money on a cable, feel free to steer 'em to your friend.

 

[BigRay]

and by a fellow carolinian, no less. What a dissapointment. You must live in Western NC. No really..no hard feelings whatsoever. but I honestly had no commercial gains in mind. I just wanted to stop someone from paying luminous or audio magic TONS of dough(look at their prices, WHOA!) when there are products just as good or better for MUCH less money. thats all. my offer still stands,if you want to try out one of my personal cables for the heck of itand do an A-B comparison you are welcome to. this is no different than fluffing a "commercialised" product. comps are fun , I think anyway.
hell, I cant see paying monster any amount of money. those dudes are class action crooks. not to mention the cables sound like ass and have cheap design. Mogami are decent, as are zaolla. Canares , though as far as lower tier cables go are the best, in my opinion.60 bucks for a 15 foot pair.

Let's back up a step--I signed that rep.

This is a dealer thread, I don't care if BigRay isn't the dealer. There is nothing wrong with being a dealer, we have many that hang out here. There is nothing wrong with plugging some gear you like in a thread on another board where somebody is talking about mic cables, or whatever.

However, this board has this instruction:



And the OP basically slathered ad copy all over his post. Not cool.

Tell your friend to buy a banner ad--at $115 a cable, I think he can afford it. Then if somebody on the Mic board asks where they can spend too much money on a cable, feel free to steer 'em to your friend.

 

[frederic]

An awful lot of arguing over some cables.

Anyway, to answer the question that was asked and never answered...

Silver conducts better than copper. Using it on a mating set of contacts means that the joint should have a lower restance than with just pure copper. Joints are bad in electrical circuits of any kind, acting as a resistor. A very very tiny resistor, but a resistor none-the-less.

This is why a lot of things that are deemed "cricital" are soldered together using a silver solder rather than standard rosin core electrical solder. It conducts better.

Silver, like copper, tarnishes however, so that less-resistance connection eventually will ultimately suck at some point and need to be cleaned.

Gold on the other hand, doesn't conduct as well as copper, however as you know from earrings, wedding bands, and watches, gold doesn't tarnish. So you get a "darn good" joint at the connector essentially forever.

If you want the least resistance in the signal path, and willing to clean things every so often, get silver coated connectors.

If you don't mind a little resistance in the signal path, but never want to clean anything, buy gold coated connectors.

if you don't care one way or another, and think this is all bullshit, buy copper coated connectors - it's the cheapest of the three.

 

[cliccmade43]

Just amazing. Why did dude post in this thread anyway? If your not buying why comment?

 

[BigRay]

Just amazing. Why did dude post in this thread anyway? If your not buying why comment?

Probably for the same reason the other people that werent buying posted a comment. To voice an opinion(which is fine). I dont know the guy, but fully agree with his assertions about differences in sound between cables.If we are talking about inappropriate comments.. The first comment was as uncalled if not more as this one. If you cant say anything nice....I personally am fine with discussion so long as it doesnt turn into a shitstorm of unjustified attacks.

anyway, lesson learned for me, ill stick to gear slutz and ebay to sell things, and message privately, now that ive felt out the atmosphere of the board a little.

 

[easychair]

If you HAVEN'T DONE ACTUAL A/B TEST, SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW EXPENSIVE CABLES ARE A LOAD OF CRAP.

For the sake of discussion,

PLEASE POST YOUR TESTING METHODS OR SHUT THE FUCK UP.

 

[Herr Joachim]

How about you print screen (zoomed in closely) the waves from a recording software, and show the difference when recording the same signal. Perhaps transfering a previously done recording, importing a cd track or something similar?
I have done it myself, and the differences are visible. Transfering the same track from a hard disc recorder to the computer with standard cheap cable
and a shielded mogami cable with an rf-stopper.
But more important, the difference is audible. Quality cables make a difference. Admittedly, boutique cables are mostly a huge rip-off costwise, but you get better sound. Quality DIY stuff is the best option, and i think promoting such work is worth something to the homerec community.