Freq's below 100htz, and monitors

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How important is it on a practical sense for monitors to be able to produce frequencys as low as say 50-6-htz? I have a friend who complains he wants his monitors to handle frequencys at this level and lower, what goes on here?
 
chamelious said:
How important is it on a practical sense for monitors to be able to produce frequencys as low as say 50-6-htz? I have a friend who complains he wants his monitors to handle frequencys at this level and lower, what goes on here?
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Bass

Kind of important for most modern music. ;)

Ted
 
with a large percentage of people listening on systems with sub woofers, It would be nice to be able to control what everyone will hear. If you can't hear it you can't control it.
 
Most nearfields can't really do much below about 50 Hz, you'll see their response drop off sharply on the chart as you get to the low sub-bass freqs.

Best thing to do would probably be to either get larger monitors with a big woofer (like 8" or larger), but then you may get less accuracy since the larger woofers don't respond as nimbly as a smaller ones would.

A subwoofer calibrated to the main monitors' levels would be the other best bet. But: Bass waves are very long, so positioning the sub is very important. When you're talking about sub-bass, the wavelengths can be several feet in length and you could easily be finding yourself sitting inside a null area.
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Taufactor said:
Best thing to do would probably be to either get larger monitors with a big woofer (like 8" or larger), but then you may get less accuracy since the larger woofers don't respond as nimbly as a smaller ones would.
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Say what??????????? Listen friend, I got a pair of Adams S2As that beg to differ with you....... same with my previous KRK V8s.... extremely tight and responsive low-end.....

A good policy when hanging around here is to know what you're talking about before you post. Didn't you see the signs warning not to feed the bear? ;)
 
Farview said:
with a large percentage of people listening on systems with sub woofers, It would be nice to be able to control what everyone will hear. If you can't hear it you can't control it.
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Hmmm, this brings up an interesting question. I would think that the largest pecentage of people listening would NOT have a sub. In fact, I would think most music is either listened to in the car, on the radio, or on headphones. Am I wrong?

This should probably be a new topic. Or maybe it's been covered before?

Ted
 
tedluk said:
Hmmm, this brings up an interesting question. I would think that the largest pecentage of people listening would NOT have a sub. In fact, I would think most music is either listened to in the car, on the radio, or on headphones. Am I wrong?

This should probably be a new topic. Or maybe it's been covered before?

Ted
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I suppose it depends on the age of your target audience, And the style of music. I do maily rock and I have a sub in all my cars. My inlaws have a sub in thier living room (they are in thier 60's)

I don't mix with subs, but I have large monitors and a large control room.
 
You can go 6" with a sub, or 8" without. I have the former.

If you have a 6", send 'em a sine wave test tone at 40Hz. Just be sure to start with the level pretty low.
 
Hmmm, this brings up an interesting question. I would think that the largest pecentage of people listening would NOT have a sub. In fact, I would think most music is either listened to in the car, on the radio, or on headphones. Am I wrong?

This should probably be a new topic. Or maybe it's been covered before?
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This is definitely something that has changed alot in the last 10-20 years. Im in my 20's and I don't know very many people who don't have some kind of home stereo/car stereo setup that isn't running a sub (and no its not a bunch of kids listening to rap music either lol)
Surround Sound has also become so popular that alot of people have a sub setup in their main listening enviroment.
 
chamelious said:
How important is it on a practical sense for monitors to be able to produce frequencys as low as say 50-6-htz? I have a friend who complains he wants his monitors to handle frequencys at this level and lower, what goes on here?
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Depends on what you're after.

If you are cross checking a mix already done on sophisticated monitors then maybe no. However if the monitors are your primaries, and they are not imaging the low end, then get a sub. Bass that cannot be heard or perhaps even wanted, can eat up a lot of headroom. So, you need to hear down there to either eliminate or craft what's going on.

Sounds like your friend needs a sub-woofer or larger monitors.
 
chamelious said:
How important is it on a practical sense for monitors to be able to produce frequencys as low as say 50-6-htz? I have a friend who complains he wants his monitors to handle frequencys at this level and lower, what goes on here?
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Ideally, it's great to mix and master on a full range system, but you can get away with smaller monitors if you use headphones to get a sense of really deep bass and can check your mix later on a full range system. Many smaller speakers can generate 50 to 60hz within a 3db tolerance. The real drop-off happens below 50 and dramatically increases until very few home audio speakers will actually put out 20hz. Get a nice pair of headphones and a CD with tones from 20hz to 20Khz and you'll get a sense of how deep 20hz really is, and also what you might be missing (or not missing) with monitors that get down to 50/60hz...

My studio has monitors that get down to about 50 to 60hz, but my livingroom stereo gets down to 28hz. The range between 28db to 50db is sonically huge, in my view much more significant than the numerical spread would seem to indicate. At 30hz it's as if the house walls are breathing. I sometimes have a lot of deep bass in what I'm doing and can get my mixes very much in the ballpark before even running it through the sub. But you never really know what you have until you play what you have through a system that can fully reproduce it...
 
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