For the love of God....

[cellardweller]

Why can't I pan my tracks?
No matter where I put sliders, they are located in the center of the stereo field.
It does reduce the volume when I pan them either direction, but does not affect/change the location in the stereo field.

I'm using a Delta 1010lt and Ntrack.

I've recorded several tracks using various configurations (1-3 inputs simultaneously) as if this might have some affect. Nothing changes them. Straight down the center and no pan control either in the Delta patchbay/router~monitor/mixer, neither in Ntrack has any affect over the stereo field.

I'm going to have to drink a beer now.

Thanks in advance for your patience with my perpetual noobism.

*EDIT*~ Pan controls in Ntrack/Delta mixer do not seem to affect stereo field assignment during playback nor recording. I tried both. WTF?
I'm sure this is another forehead slapper (like last time)... DOH!

 

[joro]

are you recording stereo tracks or Mono tracks?
If stereo...the pan effect is reduced due to the fact thet you already have two channels of equal sound left and right....

If you are recording stereo....try recording mono and then see if that helps...

just guessing here really though....
the pan should take place in NTracks though...not on the 10/10 LT

Be cool and good luck man....
oh,....and have a beer for me while your at it...

 

[travelin travis]

maybe you have the panning law screwed up in ntrack? not sure if ntrack has that feature.

 

[cellardweller]

That's what I thought, the first tracks I did record in stereo, then I noticed/changed it, but nothing-no change.

Panning law? Hmmm.
Don't recall seeing any option similar to that, but I'll have to have another look-see (that computer is downstairs...)

 

[travelin travis]

another thing to check.......is your out bus stereo? if it's mono panning will have no effect

 

[cellardweller]

another thing to check.......is your out bus stereo? if it's mono panning will have no effect

Umm... I don't know?

Before the 1010lt, I used to record with a Fostex MR8/bounced to computer-ntrack, and never had any problem panning. It's gotta be something with the 1010lt, or the way that Ntrack interfaces with it.... err something

I'll load up an old song that I know has panning on it, and see if the panning is still evident.

Gotsta feed the midgets first though. Pork chops on the grill despite the rain!
I defy you mister raincloud.

Thanks.

 

[travelin travis]

it really should'nt have anything to do with your 1010lt.

 

[cellardweller]

I got hopeful there for a second thinking maybe I'd hooked up my monitors to two left channels.... no such luck....

Yeah, it doesn't make sense that it would have to do with the 1010lt, but I never had any problem when bouncing from the MR8....

I'll dink with it after supper here.

 

[NL5]

I'll bet your output bus is not set up correctly........

 

[cellardweller]

Output bus?

The way Ntrack is outputting to the 1010lt?
Or within the 1010?

 

[Dogman]

I'll bet your output bus is not set up correctly........

I think this is the correct answer. If your outputs on the delta are panned to center, even panning in N-tracks will still be centered. Get my drift? It just goes from having 2 channels of mono, to one. Look in Delta, and hard pan everything. This might sound odd when recording, as a mono track will be panned hard one side, but might solve the problem. And if that don't work.......

 

[cellardweller]

I thought I already tried that one Dogman, but let me look again.
I've been very good at overlooking the obvious lately....
Maybe there is one straggler pan control I've neglected.... I hope so!

Just to be safe, I've my Sierra Nevada Stout here.
Hows about sending me one of them arrogant bastards though, despite my unworthiness....

 

[NL5]

I think this is the correct answer. If your outputs on the delta are panned to center, even panning in N-tracks will still be centered. Get my drift? It just goes from having 2 channels of mono, to one. Look in Delta, and hard pan everything. This might sound odd when recording, as a mono track will be panned hard one side, but might solve the problem. And if that don't work.......

Yep. It sounds like you have your output set up as mono. Not sure how it works with a 1010, but you need a stereo output assigned to output 1 & 2, or something like that. Here it is in cubase with a RME hamerfall. My stereo bus out is assigned to outputs 1 & 2.

Now where is my A.B.?????

http://www.homerecording.com/bbs/attachment.php?attachmentid=19705

 

[cellardweller]

Sounds like you may be correct NL5. I think I have the outputs set to mono, but I'm about to go verify.

Good ol' Slackmaster2K (what ever happened to that guy? Is he at the "other" place?) gives a good description of settings here

3) Preferences->Sampling Frequency: 44,100. Using 96 is a drag and 48 makes little sense.

I'd been using 48. How does this not "make sense"?

Thanks guys.

 

[cellardweller]

No where is my A.B.?????

You arrogant bastards, with your fancy beers!

I haven't seen that one, though I'm not surprised.
I'm just happy they still carry Sierra Nevada, though it is a bit "chalky"

I'd probably have to travel 50 miles from this one-horse town to find a wonderful arrogant bastard like that!

 

[Dogman]

You arrogant bastards, with your fancy beers!

I haven't seen that one, though I'm not surprised.
I'm just happy they still carry Sierra Nevada, though it is a bit "chalky"

I'd probably have to travel 50 miles from this one-horse town to find a wonderful arrogant bastard like that!

I'd send you some if it weren't illeagal.....hell, I'd probably get in more trouble for sending you a few beers, than if I sent you a kilo of H.....

 

[cellardweller]

Please kill me.

If you sent the kilo I would inject it directly in my eyeball right now.
This is fucking my eyes out.

I've come no further than three hours ago!

This is killing me!

When I play a cd through windoze media, I can hear stereo separation.
I cannot seem to assign left-right to ouputs 1/2 in Ntrack.

I've searched every possible keyword I could think of, and sent an email to Flavio...

I"m off to M-audios website now.

 

[travelin travis]

figuring out gear can be a pain in the ass. sorry you're having so much trouble cellar. just know that we all get to go thru it at one point or another. kind of makes you wish you got a four track instead sometimes does'nt it?

the only thing i can think of are to make sure your master output bus in ntrack is setup for stereo.

 

[deadhippy]

two years later and again I'm back in the same place....

There is nothing wrong in any other application,

Only Ntrack will NOT play allow me to pan anything and there is no stereo separation in tracks. All other apps are normal.

WTF?

 

[cellardweller]

err...umm...yeah...

I farked with Ntrack half the night last night (STILL IN MONO!)... it doesn't seem to be of any use to post stuff in the Ntrack forum, so I'm posting here instead.

I've got Reaper burned on a CD and am probably going to just install that onto my recording 'puter...but damn thats frustrating!