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trebles
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any epiphone solidbody or casino made up untill 1969 nothing past this date
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lester paul
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you have to ask
Dr.Rock says take 2 earplugs insert Les Paul into Marshall amp and don't worry about calling in the morning you'll be cured of what ails you .
Dr.Rock says take 2 earplugs insert Les Paul into Marshall amp and don't worry about calling in the morning you'll be cured of what ails you .
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Griffinator
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Serious Flaws in this discussion:
1) Lumping Guitars and Basses into the same category, particularly on a poll, is a bad idea. Each company has strong and weak points - some are good with guitars, some with basses, some with both, some with only specific instruments.
2) "Rock" is too broad a term to define a given instrument's strengths under. How can you claim one instrument as the best for everything from psychedelic to surf music to fusion (well, actually a Strat fits nicely into all three of those categories, but that's beside the point)
That said, I'll offer up some opinions about common guitars and allow you to dismantle them as you desire.
Fender Stratocaster: A finesse guitar - thin, wide neck, bright sound. Eric Clapton, Eric Johnson, Yngwie Malmsteen, Dave Murray (Iron Maiden), David Gilmoure, Jimi Hendrix - all Strat players. Not a great crunch guitar, unless you slap in at least one railed humbucker in the bridge position. Even then, you're pressing your luck trying to get a big beefy tone out of it.
Gibson Les Paul: The exact opposite of the Fender. Everything that the Strat is, the Paul isn't, and vice versa. Thick neck, heavy, dark tone, big fat sound, but a brute. Slash, Randy Rhodes, Zakk Wylde, Jimmy Page - all LP players. Again you've got a wide spectrum of applications - but don't try doing too much clean work with this axe - it won't go very far - too muddy - unless you want to add a custom switch to cut out the top coil in your pickups - even then you'll suffer from all that wood...
Paul Reed Smith - I've seen a lot of these, played some of them, and can't really figure out what the big attraction is. It's such a generic-sounding instrument - there's no really distinctive tones to a PRS - it's just kinda there. Flexible, but certainly not unique.
Schecter Custom - this is a Strat, with all the amenities a strat should have and doesn't. I love the subtle touches of an SC - standard model is stained instead of painted - more of that beautiful wood resonance, rather than the plastic sound of too much enamel - well balanced, good playing, lots of options available. Stay away from the Diamond Series - they're crap.
Epiphone - I have no idea why this guitar is in that list. Gibson's red-headed stepchild, is what an Epiphone is. CRAP, CRAP, CRAP.
Ibanez - A bell-and-whistle specialty. The only people who play Ibanez guitars are people who can afford to make Ibanez give them exactly what they want. Satchmo and Vai are the only current Ibanez players worth their salt. Paul Stanley is an Ibanhead, but I can't bring myself to call him a real guitarist. Every production model Ibanez I've ever handled has been of questionable quality level. They don't hold up to road use. They don't sound any more distinctive than they look - other than the Iceman, which sounds significantly less distinctive than it looks.
ESP - why is this company in the list? Aren't they the ones who build all the Jackson/Charvel clones?
One other name worth mentioning:
B.C. Rich: The definitive heavy metal guitar - Ironically, B.C. Rich's heyday was during a time when Bernie Rico didn't own the company, and their quality sucked. Now Bernie is dead, but the B.C. Rich Customs are back in full force and better than ever - looking badass, playing pretty well, and sounding great. Only mistake they've made recently (IMO) was dropping the wonderful Kohler trem systems in favor of the chintsy Floyd Rose II's (BARF!) Of course, now that FR has licensed the original design, they use it, but I still loved those old Kohlers - so stable - man, you'd have to wrap your low E around the neck a couple times to get that bridge to detune...
1) Lumping Guitars and Basses into the same category, particularly on a poll, is a bad idea. Each company has strong and weak points - some are good with guitars, some with basses, some with both, some with only specific instruments.
2) "Rock" is too broad a term to define a given instrument's strengths under. How can you claim one instrument as the best for everything from psychedelic to surf music to fusion (well, actually a Strat fits nicely into all three of those categories, but that's beside the point)
That said, I'll offer up some opinions about common guitars and allow you to dismantle them as you desire.
Fender Stratocaster: A finesse guitar - thin, wide neck, bright sound. Eric Clapton, Eric Johnson, Yngwie Malmsteen, Dave Murray (Iron Maiden), David Gilmoure, Jimi Hendrix - all Strat players. Not a great crunch guitar, unless you slap in at least one railed humbucker in the bridge position. Even then, you're pressing your luck trying to get a big beefy tone out of it.
Gibson Les Paul: The exact opposite of the Fender. Everything that the Strat is, the Paul isn't, and vice versa. Thick neck, heavy, dark tone, big fat sound, but a brute. Slash, Randy Rhodes, Zakk Wylde, Jimmy Page - all LP players. Again you've got a wide spectrum of applications - but don't try doing too much clean work with this axe - it won't go very far - too muddy - unless you want to add a custom switch to cut out the top coil in your pickups - even then you'll suffer from all that wood...
Paul Reed Smith - I've seen a lot of these, played some of them, and can't really figure out what the big attraction is. It's such a generic-sounding instrument - there's no really distinctive tones to a PRS - it's just kinda there. Flexible, but certainly not unique.
Schecter Custom - this is a Strat, with all the amenities a strat should have and doesn't. I love the subtle touches of an SC - standard model is stained instead of painted - more of that beautiful wood resonance, rather than the plastic sound of too much enamel - well balanced, good playing, lots of options available. Stay away from the Diamond Series - they're crap.
Epiphone - I have no idea why this guitar is in that list. Gibson's red-headed stepchild, is what an Epiphone is. CRAP, CRAP, CRAP.
Ibanez - A bell-and-whistle specialty. The only people who play Ibanez guitars are people who can afford to make Ibanez give them exactly what they want. Satchmo and Vai are the only current Ibanez players worth their salt. Paul Stanley is an Ibanhead, but I can't bring myself to call him a real guitarist. Every production model Ibanez I've ever handled has been of questionable quality level. They don't hold up to road use. They don't sound any more distinctive than they look - other than the Iceman, which sounds significantly less distinctive than it looks.
ESP - why is this company in the list? Aren't they the ones who build all the Jackson/Charvel clones?
One other name worth mentioning:
B.C. Rich: The definitive heavy metal guitar - Ironically, B.C. Rich's heyday was during a time when Bernie Rico didn't own the company, and their quality sucked. Now Bernie is dead, but the B.C. Rich Customs are back in full force and better than ever - looking badass, playing pretty well, and sounding great. Only mistake they've made recently (IMO) was dropping the wonderful Kohler trem systems in favor of the chintsy Floyd Rose II's (BARF!) Of course, now that FR has licensed the original design, they use it, but I still loved those old Kohlers - so stable - man, you'd have to wrap your low E around the neck a couple times to get that bridge to detune...
Gidge
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exactly where do i get to vote for Yamaha?....
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atomictoyz
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Most of the brands mentioned have such a wide variation of cost and quality. The Ibanez for instance offers everything from $199 dollar fixed bridge 22 fret to $2400 JEM with inlays and gold plating. I can't put a Clapton Strat in the same category as a Malmsteen model, 2 different animals. Most of the pro players have a little of this and that in thier collection because no one brand or style fits everthing. I like guitars, Ive played tons of them and chose the Ibanez because of how they fit my body type and hand size, tones can be tweaked enough with string height and pick-up choice to satisfy me.
Id say the same thing as slack....
Peace,
Dennis
Id say the same thing as slack....
Peace,
Dennis
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eternalmuzik
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i got a new Shecter guitar and it rocks
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dirtdog
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I am currently on my 3rd Ibanez................ RG570.......
This guitar is easy to play, looks decent, and most importantly, sounds good. With the H-S-H configuration, a wide variety of tones are available. I can adjust the sound to suit my needs according to the type song I am playing without changing axes. I have 2 friends with Strats, and I honestly prefer my Ibanez. I don't think anyone in the industry makes a better instrument dollar-for-dollar.........
This guitar is easy to play, looks decent, and most importantly, sounds good. With the H-S-H configuration, a wide variety of tones are available. I can adjust the sound to suit my needs according to the type song I am playing without changing axes. I have 2 friends with Strats, and I honestly prefer my Ibanez. I don't think anyone in the industry makes a better instrument dollar-for-dollar.........
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Guitarist[ash]
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I use a hamer california for playing rock and it rocks! 
Speeddemon
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hmm... my vote went to Ibanez
Well, what Griffinator said is pretty true, BUT....the lower cost Ibanezes are better quality than the Squiers, Epiphones and the korean/japan made B.C Riches. believe me, I know. I happen to have quite an upperclass Ibanez, the S540FM TTS; slimline body, with low pro edge trem=better than FR, worse than Kahler...(not Kohler!).
The problem with Ibanez is that they don't use a different name for their low(er) priced models, so their overall quality/sound gets more generalised than Fender or Gibson.
But for rock/metal the other contenders are:
-ESP/GrassRoots (I have an old GR, where I changed the original pick-ups with Seymour Duncan 59's...NOW this mutha sounds PHAT!)
-Jackson; the only company that will polish/shape the frets in the plant, so that they won't need servicing within 4-6 years...
-Kramer (if you're into 80's hair metal that is...
Not if you wannabe the next Linking Bizkorn Stained PuddleVayne.... )
The only problem with Ibanez is, that it sounds too versatile, so it lacks it's own character.
PS. Don't forget Frank Gambale and Paul Gilbert are/were Ibanez-players too...
cheerz
Well, what Griffinator said is pretty true, BUT....the lower cost Ibanezes are better quality than the Squiers, Epiphones and the korean/japan made B.C Riches. believe me, I know. I happen to have quite an upperclass Ibanez, the S540FM TTS; slimline body, with low pro edge trem=better than FR, worse than Kahler...(not Kohler!).
The problem with Ibanez is that they don't use a different name for their low(er) priced models, so their overall quality/sound gets more generalised than Fender or Gibson.
But for rock/metal the other contenders are:
-ESP/GrassRoots (I have an old GR, where I changed the original pick-ups with Seymour Duncan 59's...NOW this mutha sounds PHAT!)
-Jackson; the only company that will polish/shape the frets in the plant, so that they won't need servicing within 4-6 years...
-Kramer (if you're into 80's hair metal that is...
Not if you wannabe the next Linking Bizkorn Stained PuddleVayne.... )The only problem with Ibanez is, that it sounds too versatile, so it lacks it's own character.
PS. Don't forget Frank Gambale and Paul Gilbert are/were Ibanez-players too...
cheerz
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Patrick (B)
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GIBSON ! What about Godin ?
I play a single electric guitar since almost 20 years and I looovvvvvveeeeeeee it !
It is a Gibson Marauder (US model).
I was told that there are very few of them here in Europe ...
It sounds great all the time, and fat when I want.
Do you believe it or not, the sound to play stuff like Sultans of Swing is brilliant and rich, much nicer than Mark Knoppfler sound (while he remains for me a top reference in guitar playing technique !).
By the way, we are moving towards much larger gigs now and I need to have a second guitar (as backup). I tried a Godin LX series. The sustain is incredible and I appreciate the "luthier" approach of Godin.
What is your opinion on this guitar surprinsingly not mentioned here ???
Cheers,
Patrick
I play a single electric guitar since almost 20 years and I looovvvvvveeeeeeee it !
It is a Gibson Marauder (US model).
I was told that there are very few of them here in Europe ...
It sounds great all the time, and fat when I want.
Do you believe it or not, the sound to play stuff like Sultans of Swing is brilliant and rich, much nicer than Mark Knoppfler sound (while he remains for me a top reference in guitar playing technique !).
By the way, we are moving towards much larger gigs now and I need to have a second guitar (as backup). I tried a Godin LX series. The sustain is incredible and I appreciate the "luthier" approach of Godin.
What is your opinion on this guitar surprinsingly not mentioned here ???
Cheers,
Patrick