F'n FLOYD ROSE, MAN!

[ggunn]

What about your tuners? This can be accomplished with just a normal strat set up?

What about them? There's nothing special about my tuners (original '61) or setup.

I mean your not going to be able to hold the trem bar down to the body, wouldn't that cause the 6 screws going to the body to come unattached?

Yes, I can. The screw heads are far enough up so that that doesn't happen, I guess. I dunno, it just works.

(EDIT) Pushing the bar down to the body moves the flange on the bridge that the screws attach to toward the body, not away from it.

 

[cephus]

I'll tell you right now that getting a nut cut by someone who knows what they're doing is the most important step to getting a standard trem to stay in tune. the thing that started all this was my getting the trem to stay in tune pretty well on my squier strat. I had just dowelled and redrilled for an american bridge and did a really carful job of getting the screws in a straight line. The bummer is that a strat trem won't go down as far as the floyd rose. Like it's not even close. I could get the low E string to go EVH low in pitch, but not spaghetti strings. Then it would kind of be in tune. The floyd allows you to do anything in the world that would normally get a strat out of tune (like run over it with a car - different story) and it stays in tune. STAYS in tune. The bummer is that it can take you all afternoon to get it in tune in the first place.

The other bummer about the floater is that is sucks up all the force I apply to bend strings. Like I used to be able to bend the pitch of the G string/2nd fret to a B (one whole step) pretty easily. Enough so that I did it all the time. When i was going headbanger last night, I couldn't push the string far enough to get the pitch up. I was pushing into the D and A strings, but the pitch was still flat. The bridge was giving so much that I think it'd be impossible to bend that particular note.

I always play with .010s and I was thinking that I want to put .009 or .008 on this one and set it up for that. The action of the trem with three springs is just a little heavy, I think. I mean, I can physically move it, but if I have to deal with this instability and whatnot, i want to be able to fly on this fretboard.

 

[capnkid]

I'll tell you right now that getting a nut cut by someone who knows what they're doing is the most important step to getting a standard trem to stay in tune. the thing that started all this was my getting the trem to stay in tune pretty well on my squier strat. I had just dowelled and redrilled for an american bridge and did a really carful job of getting the screws in a straight line. The bummer is that a strat trem won't go down as far as the floyd rose. Like it's not even close. I could get the low E string to go EVH low in pitch, but not spaghetti strings. Then it would kind of be in tune. The floyd allows you to do anything in the world that would normally get a strat out of tune (like run over it with a car - different story) and it stays in tune. STAYS in tune. The bummer is that it can take you all afternoon to get it in tune in the first place.

The other bummer about the floater is that is sucks up all the force I apply to bend strings. Like I used to be able to bend the pitch of the G string/2nd fret to a B (one whole step) pretty easily. Enough so that I did it all the time. When i was going headbanger last night, I couldn't push the string far enough to get the pitch up. I was pushing into the D and A strings, but the pitch was still flat. The bridge was giving so much that I think it'd be impossible to bend that particular note.

I always play with .010s and I was thinking that I want to put .009 or .008 on this one and set it up for that. The action of the trem with three springs is just a little heavy, I think. I mean, I can physically move it, but if I have to deal with this instability and whatnot, i want to be able to fly on this fretboard.

Can't you put a piece of wood behind the block to keep it from raising? Would this make it more stable.

 

[cephus]

Holy shit!

I just called this decent shop that I recently found to see how much a floyd guitar setup costs, and he said it's double! This guy does some nice detail work and I got the impression that he honestly just didn't want to fuck with it. He said it just takes so much time and it's all "tuning it over and over and over".

And that is for a setup. No fret work at all. That is $200.

I am not bitching. To me it's empowering. It says to me "Go for it, cause it ain't gonna get done any other way." I want to make this a guitar like the common guitar player would like. Low action. Light strings. Hot pickups. Floyd F'n Rose. It's already relic'd pretty good from being kicked around my garage floor in my last 5 previous addresses.

This guy is super cool, though. I got to actually talk to the main guy and he didn't make me feel like he had something else he'd rather be doing. Very important quality for phone etiquet. He also did a fucking wicked job on my strat and made my the other ones feel like Hondos.

 

[metalhead28]

Holy shit!

I just called this decent shop that I recently found to see how much a floyd guitar setup costs, and he said it's double! This guy does some nice detail work and I got the impression that he honestly just didn't want to fuck with it. He said it just takes so much time and it's all "tuning it over and over and over".

And that is for a setup. No fret work at all. That is $200.

I am not bitching. To me it's empowering. It says to me "Go for it, cause it ain't gonna get done any other way." I want to make this a guitar like the common guitar player would like. Low action. Light strings. Hot pickups. Floyd F'n Rose. It's already relic'd pretty good from being kicked around my garage floor in my last 5 previous addresses.

This guy is super cool, though. I got to actually talk to the main guy and he didn't make me feel like he had something else he'd rather be doing. Very important quality for phone etiquet. He also did a fucking wicked job on my strat and made my the other ones feel like Hondos.

I imagine that the set up cost being higher is mostly because of the pain in the ass that is setting the intonation on a Floyd equipped guitar!