fly it in, line it up

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Has anyone ever had any sucess lining tracks up (I'm using Vegas now) I'm just looking to see if anyones got any tips about the easy way of lining tracks up to time. I need to get some raw drumtracks from my four track into the tracks on Vegas, I've tried once before (with Cakewalk), but not being very well versed with either software, I'm finding my self failing miserably. :(

-jhe
 
do u mean just lining up the tracks tp each other or to a click track????? Cos if u dont use a metronome just use the count in as your markers... If u were talking about simply minor adjustments(how to) then usually something like the alt or shift key will allow for minor movements..im not using vegas but im sure the same principle.. i hope thats what u were talking about ... hope i could help...
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Well, I'm comfortable moving things around after playing with it, but what I'm trying to do is made absolutly impossible by the inconsistances of the transport of the four track- I knew that It would happen, but I was hoping that it would be minimal enough to work around, but it's not at all :(. Oh well.
 
When talking about "flying" it in you're talking about a digital transfer or a "synced" analog transfer.

Do you mean it was wrong (human timing error) on the four track tape and you imagined you could line this up in a multitracker once all four tracks were imported?
OR:
You only have a two-in sound card (or a two out four-track) and have to import the four tracks in two passes?

Either one I'd guess you are S.O.L. Those tape transports just aren't as reliable as a system clock. Which 4-track?
 
It's the original 424. Yeah I only have a two input sound card. I'm going to have to suffer untill I get a better card. :D
 
James, I think I know what you're getting at. If you want to make a analog transfer from your 4 tracker try this. At the beginning of trak one Stripe in two or four clicks Before your audio begins). Bounce these clicks to the other three tracks. Now you have these clicks in sync on all four. Now when you record them into Vegas two tracks at a time, just expand the tracks out all the way and drag each track until the clicks line up. Now the tracks are in sync in Vegas where you can do all kinds of mischef to them and add more tracks. The limitations here are numerous and obvious. The fact that your transport is not going to be sample accurate means that between the two passes the speed differences could be non correctable. If the tunes are longer than say three minutes my guess is it'll start to drift noticably.

[This message has been edited by Track Rat (edited 07-07-2000).]
 
I was just thinking that it might've been possible if you'd striped one track with
a sync track. I've never tried this because once I got something I could sync it to it was a moot point. I didn't have any tapes that were crucial to archive.
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It took me a sec to realize what you were saying. That's a good idea Track Rat, but man most of my tunes are over five minutes :( :) Maybe If I'm feeling adventruous I'll try it. Also I was thinking that maybe the transport would be more acurrate if I maxxed out the pitch control. But then how would I slow it back down?? BAD IDEA I guess :D

-jhe
 
Do what Track Rat said and if you can zoom your view in, make cuts and deletes along the way to make things line up. I've done that before with tracks previously recorded and a drum machines tracks. It was less noticeable than human error in the end. Try to pick the most consistent track to line things up with, which in my case was the drum track.

[This message has been edited by monty (edited 07-08-2000).]
 
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