Floyd Pivot holes

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I have a floyd that was in a drawer and now I am putting it back into service. I have a strat copy that is currently drilled for an american vintage 6-hole trem. I would think there'd be some kind of template that spots the holes for the floyd trem posts from the existing stock-trem screw locations. I know the floyds won't work well unless the pivots are perfectly aligned, so I want to get this right the first time.

Is there a way to locate the floyd pivots based on the stock trem pivot screw locations?

This is the wood screw type pivot, by the way. Not the ones with bushings.
 
cephus said:
Is there a way to locate the floyd pivots based on the stock trem pivot screw locations?
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Nope. Sorry.



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someinternetdouchebag said:
Once the holes are plugged and the glue you used to plug them with is dry (a day or so), set the Floyd back in the hole, and line up the edge of the bridge with the 6 holes from the previous trem. Once you line up the horizontal, then line up the vertical. Use a piece of string from the High and Low slots on the nut to BOTH outside saddles to make sure everything is lined up properly. Check the vertical again and make sure you didn't move the edge of the bridge. Check the horizontal again with the strings. Now carefully mark where you need to drill. In your case, I would measure everything one more time after you mark the drill spots just to be sure
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http://www.guitars101.com/vb/guitar-rack/14258-how-installing-floyd-rose-8.html

The stew mac info looks like they get their position by the corner of the trem rout. That seems stupid when the six holes would assure you were spot on with intonation (ok - in the ballpark).
 
I'm pretty sure you will not be able to use the Floyd properly in the Strat trem route. The Floyd system needs a little more routing than the standard Vintage Trem route to work properly, even if you get the holes aligned correctly.
 
This bridge is old and has the large wood-screw type posts. Not the bushing ones. I think that'll give me the clearance I need. But I'll defintely check. Thanks.
 
You'll have room to put the pivot screws in, no doubt. I think the route through the body is a little smaller though for a vintage trem than a Floyd. I'm not sure the sustain block from the Floyd will fit properly where the vintage sustain block is. I'm almost certain that route needs to be just a little bigger for a Floyd.
 
The block on this floyd is absolutely tiny. I am surprised how heavy the entire assembly is, though. It weighs as much as my cast fender trem. I think the block is brass or something. I took the thing apart for cleaning and the block itself is oddly heavy. It's thin, like maybe 3/8", and not quite as wide from E to E. Maybe the arm/socket will hit wood. I'm not concerned with that so much as the pivots encroaching into the electronics cavity. The squier is made out of some exotic banana wood or something and I am hoping that the pivots won't wallow out.

I bought a set of new mighty mite saddles. I am sure that they are crap, but the original ones are so corroded on the low-E side that they are probably unuseable. Definitely ugly. I also sprang for an aftermarket neck already routed for the floyd nut, so that means the only original parts on this $75 guitar are the body, the neck screws and the ouput jack plate. Retarded.

I started all this because after i carefully re-drilled this body to fit an American fender trem, i could whammy a good bit and the thing stayed pretty well in tune. I got bored with just wobbling chords and found that the range of the standard fender trem is not as much fun as how I remembered my floyd being. Since I had this thing in a drawer and everyone is always talking about how cool they are, I figured I'd further deface the $75 disco slut.
 
Now that you mention it, I think it might be the arm assembly that hits the wood. Most newer floyd routes have an extra little part beneath there. Is the sustain block big enough? they make different sizes for different routes. They have a shorter block to be used with recessed trem routes. Hopefully that is not what you have (I think it's 32mm, standard is 37mm), because the springs may hit the cavity in the back if the sustain block is too short. Also, if you are worried about the wood for the pivot posts, you might be better off drilling for the stud and anchor posts instead of the screw in type. Because of the stress put on the bridge from the strings, the screw in holes can crack the body over time, usually from the front of the post to the bridge pickup route. The stud and anchor set is much more secure and doesn't seem to cause this issue.
 
I just got my new cheap-o MM neck from a trailer park somewhere in the rocky mountains via ebay and USPS. It was on my porch under a dribble from an icicle on my porch. The box was a teeny bit moist. The neck is smooth and shiny and shaped roughly the way I think a strat would look without a body or strings or tuners. The predrilled holes for the top-mount floyd nut were only marginally cockeyed, but will nonetheless be filled and re drilled. The frets are tall and pointy, the exact opposite of how I like them. The chrome on the "officially licensed" locking nut looks exactly like the chrome on the hubcaps in model car kits.

But it is, without a doubt, the fricking coolest object I have ever received in a cardboard box.
 
mike2731 said:
Now that you mention it, I think it might be the arm assembly that hits the wood. Most newer floyd routes have an extra little part beneath there.
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You are right. Rat tail file will be used tomorrow.

THis is stupid. I am going to so fukc this up.

It's going to look cool as shit, though.
 
What's that I smell?

I'm chickening out. While I was gathering everything i need, I realized I have about 95% of this Kramer's parts that the floyd came off of. I am just going to put it back together again.

If it's cool, i can get another one and apply it to the disco slut. Right now, I did such a good job of mounting the fender bridge, that it deserves to stay as it is for a while.

So, instead of tearing up one perfectly mediocre guitar, I am going to repatriate the kramer neck from the jambolin and put the new one I just bought in its place. I was always lukewarm about the kramer for various reasons, but it'll be a quick and easy way to remind myself whether floyd roses are cool or lame.
 
Did you say KRAMER guitar????

I admit it, I still love Kramers. What do you have? And what are you doing with the neck??
 
It's an early 84 focus 3000. kind of a strat copy. the output jack is on the pickguard and the body is not exactly strat-shaped.

the frets are huge. body is not light or heavy. hss.

the sad part is that my homemade guitar loses his neck until I mount this one I just bought.
 
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