Floated Control Room Floor

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The nail shots are just to keep it in place while we build but the weight of the walls etc will keep it in place. Keep you r eye on Guruland and I'll try to keep you informed of all those little things we amateurs tend to forget about ;);)

We've been fucked around by the carpenters but we should get going again next week. :rolleyes:

cheers
john
 
One more thing. Neoprene will not deteriorate like some other forms of rubber or foam. Something to think about if your laying it on a basement floor.
 
Bushice

Thanks for the info. It seems to be much the same in the UK.

John - thanks - I'm looking forward to Guruland updates, looks superb.

Snapper - your place is looking great BTW. Yeah binkelman's neoprene looks perfect . I have found a UK supplier http://www1.rswww.com/ £113 odd for a 1.0 M by 1.2M 12mm Neoprene sheet.

Will let you know what I go with.

Cheers
 
?Construction?

Everyone here is so adept in the techniques of studio crafting i was just wondering if there was a place that i could find a diagram or generic blueprint to help me with my space that i want to turn into a studio. i am considering raising the area for the control console and boards any ideas on how to go about that or wether it is even a good idea at all.
where could i find some good old-fashioned corking
 
Lyrical,

For some basic studio design plans, check out this link:

http://www.saecollege.de/reference_material/index.html

Look in the side bar for "Studio Plans". There are a variety of basic plans for different situations listed there. I plan on using the Garage Studio #2 as a starting point, and of course I will have to modify to suit my setup, but this is a good place to begin.

Also check out this page on John Sayers site here:

http://locall.dataline.net.au/~johnsay/Studio/index.htm

He has a lot of excellent "works in progress" and completed studio links complete with pics and some layout designs. Very much worth the time it takes to go through.

Good luck!!!

Bushice
 
with regards to nailing the floor joists through into the concrete, if my subfloor is wood instead of concrete wouldn't i loose my sound isolation as vibrations would travel down screws (in my case) and trasmit the sound to the other floor bypassing the neoprene?


Also in john's pictures he laid neoprene the whole length of each floor joist. I'm just putting them every 1 1/2 feet. is the space between the neoprene a problem or should I use caulk or something in between in neoprene pad under the 2x4 joists.
 
Yeah but I have a question about this statement:

For optimum operation, the pads should be loaded for a 1/16" static deflection. The standard pad is molded from durable duPont Neoprene with a 45 durometer hardness which provides 1/16" deflection when loaded at 50 pounds per square inch. A 65 durometer pad provides 1/16" deflection with 150psi and it is used for heavier weights on smaller areas.

How do you determine the load you have? It seems quite complex to map out the room weight based on equipment layout.

Bushice
 
I think "optimum " is pretty wide open here. OK 2" tape machines weigh abit but I use computers only so all I have done is look at the weight of the structure to be floated. I have used building regs info plus built a couple of dry run type things - a section of floated floor for example :) BTW I haven't used Vib X.

Hope this helps.
 
How I got on

I just posted this elsewhere but here it is for completeness - I have just redone my floating floor. I used a hot glue gun (Bostick) to stick 13mm Neoprene pucks directly onto 2X4" battens - worked really well. I used No Nails type glue to attach 30 mm compressed Rockwool to the underside of my 18mm Chipboard floor to damp any resonances. Next is to glue and screw down 18mm ply onto the battens - that will happen next day or so.

I would have gone for 2 layers 18mm ply but the job had to be done for minimal outlay so I modified what I had.

I have a test whereby I have a mate do his best Bonzo impression on my kit and I go around using finger tips to feel for unwanted vibrations - in garage floor, house walls etc. With the neoprene pucks underneath I can detect much less snare transfer into the slab/house foundation/house walls than when the floor was on 30mm Rockwool. With kick the there is naturally more impact transmission to deal with but the neoprene is definately working - with the mass increase afforded by the second layer of boards it will be fine for my purposes.

I have used a 300mm spacing between the pucks - it feels very slightly springy to walk on - puck size 50mmX100mm. Anyway I hope this helps a bit.

cheers
 
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