flatline AKG headphones?

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i was talking to a friend about headphones and he suggested one important thing to look for is a "flatline response". he says this ensures that what is recorded, is how it sounds through the headphones.

do AKG headphones have flatline response? I can't really tell from what i've been reading.

in particular, i'm looking at the:

AKG K171
AKG K271
and the AKG K240S


THANKS!
 
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Uhh, you can listen through cans but you don't want to MIX through cans.

What you hear in the cans is NOT what you will get while mixing.

Your use of "flat" may mean no coloring of sound by the gear? Most quality monitors are flat--no coloration.

AKG makes good products as do several other can makers, like Beyer 250s which I like.

What you hear in the cans doesn't mean that's what you get on a track--when you play back through monitors is when you hear what you've got and what you lack or want.

Keep listening and reading. That "Shadow" knows. :eek: :cool: :D :D

Green Hornet :eek:
 
No... I'm sure there ARE headphones that don't colour man.. does anyone know any?
 
andyouandi said:
No... I'm sure there ARE headphones that don't colour man.. does anyone know any?

Well, doggies. Another newbie who refuses to listen.

You asked for advice and got the straight dope on mixing thru headphones, then you have the chutzpah to ask for a second opinion.

Here's that second opinion: Green Hornet is right when he says that y'just can't mix thru headphones. There are numerous reasons for this, so just take it on faith that it's not a good idea.

Go ahead and buy the most expensive of the AKG models - and remember when your mixes suck you can't blame it on us @ homerecording dot com...
 
ssscientist said:
Well, doggies. Another newbie who refuses to listen.

You asked for advice and got the straight dope on mixing thru headphones, then you have the chutzpah to ask for a second opinion.

Here's that second opinion: Green Hornet is right when he says that y'just can't mix thru headphones. There are numerous reasons for this, so just take it on faith that it's not a good idea.

Go ahead and buy the most expensive of the AKG models - and remember when your mixes suck you can't blame it on us @ homerecording dot com...


1) I apologize that i'm new
2) I'm apologizing for confirming
3) I apologize for even coming on here, a forum, ironically welcoming "newbies", to ask questions to ensure that I know what I'm looking for before I spend money.

Thanks a lot Rudey McRudeface...
Please do me a favour and go egg some kids for being in Gr. 9 because as we all know, it's their fault.
 
You can buy a 30 dollar computer surround system w/ sub that will mix better than a set of cans, but to get a decent mix, you really need some near field monitors. I bough a set of Behringer Truth monitros a couple years ago, and though they're not perfect, I get a pretty good representation of what's going on tape.
 
andyouandi said:
1) I apologize that i'm new
2) I'm apologizing for confirming
3) I apologize for even coming on here, a forum, ironically welcoming "newbies", to ask questions to ensure that I know what I'm looking for before I spend money.

Thanks a lot Rudey McRudeface...
Please do me a favour and go egg some kids for being in Gr. 9 because as we all know, it's their fault.

Perhaps you should have told us that you only wanted answers that said what you wanted to hear. A lot of people here try to give the best valid information of which they are possessed. They give it freely with only the hope of it being appreciated.

Since you didn't appreciate the answers you were given and were disrespectful to the people who were trying to help you, you shouldn't be surprised at the reaction.

ALL headphones will color the sound. In fact, if a manufacturer shows a "flat line" for frequency response, they are being dishonest. The same thing is true for speakers as well. They ALL color the response to one degree or another. I don't think the transducer has been invented that can reproduce the entire audio spectrum perfectly. If it has, you and I can't afford it!

MadAudio's linked article below gives a good, short explanation for why it's extremely difficult to get a good mix on headphones. It clearly explains why you will have a more difficult time trying to get an accurate read on your mix using headphones. Unlike some, I don't believe it's impossible to mix on headphones, I think you can learn to compensate no matter what you use, but, in order to get it right, you're still going to have to listen to it on speakers at some point. And I think you really have to have golden ears to do it and get consistent results.

Had you asked which headphones offer the best frequency response within a certain budget constraint, you would have gotten a number of answers for what we all like and use. The AKG240S or M are excellent, as are the Sony MDR7560, they are both in the $100.00 range. The Beyerdynamics mentioned are great, but a LOT more expensive!

Ted
 
i seriously apologize... i'm jsut not happy at the moment. bad job doesnt help... didn't mean to take it out on you guys..

just, i'm trying to compile as much info as i can. i appreciate your responses so saying otherwise is entirely untrue.

sorry,

just trying to get more than one opinion. i know people who say their guitar is awesome, and then it turns out to be... shit... pardon my language. but i want to avoid the whole buying the wrong product phase of learning... buying a product that works well, but isn't the greatest is different... i'll settle for coloured sound. i AM just an amateur, trying to learn and get the best sound possible within my budget.

thanks guys, i love you THIS much

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