First Drum Mix

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hey guys

Ive just done my first drum mix...



i think i may have gone a bit overboard with the reverb......

please let me know what your thoughts/ suggestions are....

thanks.
 
some random thoughts....

first, could you tell us a bit how you recorded (what mics, how many, etc.) and what kind of EQ, effects you used? that could possibly help in understanding what's happening.

anyway, here are my first thoughts...

- the toms and bass drum sound almost like samples rather than live drums....if that's the effect that you're going for, than you did a heck of a job

- the bass drum is too 'mushy' sounding

- I prefer to keep the snare dead on center in the mix, not panned at all...it seems that you have snare panned pretty hard right....

- toms seemed 'over-panned' to me as well....presents that 'fake' stereo image rather than a true representation of the how the kit sounds.
 
a bit about how it was recorded...

yer sorry about that...should of included how i recorded it.

I basically recorded the drums in mono with a Rode Classic 2 right over the drummers head (angled a little towards the snare).

I had a AKG D112 in the bass drum. It was halfway inside the drum pointed away from the snare (but at the beater)

I had a sm57 on the snare, 2 sm58 over the toms and an AKG 38000 on the floor tom.

I ran that into my beri mixer...with all the eq flat....that went direct line out into the Delta 1010 and onto the computer.

Im using Cool Edit Pro2 to mix the tracks.

I couldnt really figure out the gate in cool edit so i went through the individual tracks for snare, toms and bass drum and silenced the spill (which took forever!!).

Then i applied eq (pretty much based on what i had read from articles on studiocovers.com - if your interested i can post the particulars too) and compression.

2:1 on snare and toms
5:1 on bass drum

i also used the eq on the overhead track to get rid of a lot of the drums and keep the cymbals....just sounded better that way..

i put some delay on the snare

and then put a small amount of reverb on the bass drum (maybe a bit to much on the bass drum) and the overhead track.

and some reverb on the toms and the snare.

because i had the individual tracks i thought i could try and give it a stereo image...but maybe that doesnt work???

thats pretty much it.

thanks for your feedback....keep it com'in guys.
 
My only comment...

You can still give it a stereo image... Like... Snare/kick should be centered... maybe put the snare a tad left... but only like at 10-11 o'clock on the panning dial on CEP2. Set your high tom a bit further left from that, like 9-10 o'clock to taste... set your second tom to 2-3 o'clock, and your floor tom at around 3-4 oclock... Put your hi-hat at like 7-8 o'clock, and your ride at around 5 o'clock, or whatever... likewise, set your overheads nearly hard left and nearly hard right (like, 9 and 3)..

It's not a set rule or anything.... But it'll give you an accurate representation of a stereo image of your drumset... Of course, this is from the position of the drummer... Try flipping it if you want...

Just remember... the kick and the snare are the focus of the drumset... They should be centered or very close to it.
 
Okay... so I'm sitting here listening to Type O Negative's "We Hate Everyone"... and they have a part where it's a regular drum beat with time being kept on the hihat... which was in the right channel, and then was followed by a tom fill going from high tom to floor tom, and it did go from right to left... so i guess it is flipped from a drummer's perspective.
 
Now I'm listening to Fractional Importance, and it's recorded from a drummer's perspective.... *is confused* Just do what sounds cool. haha
 
damn!

that is the best drum recording that i had ever heard!!!!

what where your eq settings???? what kind of drums and cymbals where they?
 
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