Firestudio, dbx, and bbe (frustration inside)

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Cannot for the life of me get all of this stuff routed. I'm about to go crazy. I have a Neutrik 48pt patchbay, and a dbx166xl compressor and bbe 882i sonic maximizer. I cannot get them to recognize in my firestudio cpl, OR cubase 4. Any suggestions, ideas, opinions (the only person I don't want input from is chessrock.) Sorry dude, you're a D-bag.

Anybody else?
 
Sorry buddy... I like Chess

Oh, BTW... Great way to solicit help
 
jrhager84 said:
Cannot for the life of me get all of this stuff routed. I'm about to go crazy. I have a Neutrik 48pt patchbay, and a dbx166xl compressor and bbe 882i sonic maximizer. I cannot get them to recognize in my firestudio cpl, OR cubase 4. Any suggestions, ideas, opinions (the only person I don't want input from is chessrock.) Sorry dude, you're a D-bag.

Anybody else?
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I agree chess is a douche but you aint making a lot of sense. Look, it's all signal path. Take the patch bay out of the equation for now. Send your signal, say a bass from your software route it out to your firestudio output 1 into your DBX input and out the DBX out to the firestudio input one. Record that onto a track in cubase.

did that work?

one step at a time....we'll get this figured out.
 
MOFO Pro said:
Sorry buddy... I like Chess

Oh, BTW... Great way to solicit help
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Then you can f*ck yourself too. He is an egotistical idiot that always chimes in with stupid shit to say about everything. In all of my posts/threads or reads, he has absolutely NOTHING constructive to say about anything, and is just a nuisance that pisses me off. I have every right to tell a particular person to butt out of my thread, and I'll exercise that right with you too now...if you don't like this thread....don't post. Simple really.

Evidence:
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=246300

You may now go sit in the corner MOFO.....thanks for playing!

Moving on:

My firestudio has a bajillion inputs/outputs, and I have no idea which are labeled which in the software. There like 16 inputs, 16 outputs, and none make any sense. It's pretty much like pick a number and try it, only the possibilities with so many connections is almost endless. It's a "matrix" in the software that you have to route in order to get the inputs to communicate with the outputs etc. Maybe I just don't know how to word it right. It's just locating the physical number of the send/return of the firestudio. I've checked forums, support websites to no avail. Any easy ways to just test connections to just go through each one?
 
jrhager84 said:
Then you can f*ck yourself too. He is an egotistical idiot that always chimes in with stupid shit to say about everything. In all of my posts/threads or reads, he has absolutely NOTHING constructive to say about anything, and is just a nuisance that pisses me off. I have every right to tell a particular person to butt out of my thread, and I'll exercise that right with you too now...if you don't like this thread....don't post. Simple really.

Evidence:
https://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=246300

You may now go sit in the corner MOFO.....thanks for playing!

Moving on:

My firestudio has a bajillion inputs/outputs, and I have no idea which are labeled which in the software. There like 16 inputs, 16 outputs, and none make any sense. It's pretty much like pick a number and try it, only the possibilities with so many connections is almost endless. It's a "matrix" in the software that you have to route in order to get the inputs to communicate with the outputs etc. Maybe I just don't know how to word it right. It's just locating the physical number of the send/return of the firestudio. I've checked forums, support websites to no avail. Any easy ways to just test connections to just go through each one?
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Ok, bajillion and 16 are vastly different. Chances are you have 8 basic inputs and outputs and 8 ADAT inputs and outputs. Ignore the ADATs for now. Just send the signal you want processed out output 1 into a rack input and out a rack output to input 1 on the firestudio.

Forget about the flamewar and focus on the gear.
 
You're right...

Anywho:

It's not the actual inputs that's the problem. It's the fact that I don't know how to "activate" or whatever the channel 1 send/return for my patchbay. I also found out that if I plug that into the patch bay, I lose that preamp... I just can't seem to catch a break on any of this. If you saw the control panel on this firestudio, you'd want to kill yourself. It's so extraordinarily confusing...*gasp*
 
You mean this thing? Look, do you have an actual hardware patchbay or are you talking about this matrix/mixer for the firestudio? This would be much easier if we could use some common terminology.

Unless you like being confused...

Here is the manual, read it please. I am not here to learn your gear for you.
http://files.centrmus.com.hk/presonus/firestudio/firestudio_manual.pdf
 

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It sounds like you might have the patchbay set up wrong, not the FireStudio. My suggestion is to connect the DBX and BBE directly to the FireStudio and see if you can get that to work. Then once you have that running, add the patchbay and get that sorted.

Patchbays do not need to be "activated" or anything like that.

Your patchbay should be non-normalled, to avoid feedback situations. The way I have mine set up is that the outputs of the gear go to the top rear row, and the inputs to the bottom rear row.

So in your patchbay you would have the eight outputs of the FireStudio connected to the top rear row, say 1-8. The inputs would be connected to the bottom rear row, 1-8. Very important: Non-Normalled!

Then you'd connect the DBX outs to the top rear 9-10, ins to the bottome rear 9-10. The BBE would go into 11-12, same setup. Also: Non-Normalled!

Then you would simply patch the I/O from the Firestudio to the I/O on your outboard using patch cables, from the front of the patchbay.

Read your manual for the patchbay to learn how to non-normal it, if you haven't already. Which patchbay are you using?
 
Seriously Jamaican, lighten up. You try using that fucking matrix and tell me it's not confusing. I never asked you to "learn my gear for me". By the way, it was because of ME that they re-wrote the damn manual, so you can't tell me that it's not confusing. I've read it a thousand times dude, so ease up...

I have both jamaican. I have the matrix mixer and a neutrik 48pt patchbay NYS-SPP-L. You have to "configure" the virtual inputs/outputs to the physical inputs/outputs, which makes things REALLY confusing...

SonicAlbert:

Thank you very much for your reply. I still have NO idea how patchbays work, which is half the problem I suppose. I'll try setting it up like that and see how it all works...the problem is that when I plug into the send/return of the channel, I lose the preamp in front. I wanted to know if there was a way to bypass that, or do I just have to unplug it when I need it to record?
 
You have to be very specific when you describe what you are doing. Like do you mean a send/return on the FireStudio? Or do you mean an insert? Or is the send/return an insert? All these terms mean something slightly different, so the more exact you can be the better.

I do think the first thing you should do is connect your outboard directly to the Firestudio so you can set that up properly first. Then, once you have that working right, add the patchbay and sort that out.
 
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Seriously Jamaican, lighten up. You try using that fucking matrix and tell me it's not confusing. I never asked you to "learn my gear for me". By the way, it was because of ME that they re-wrote the damn manual, so you can't tell me that it's not confusing. I've read it a thousand times dude, so ease up...
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Easing right out of here. Sorry for trying to help.

BTW, you're a dick.
 
Saying "I'm not here to learn your gear for you" is a HIGHLY offensive thing to say, so you can call me whatever the fuck you want dude. I'd like to know where I even remotely acted like a "dick"... I asked you to lighten up because I was offended by what you said. I am MORE than entitled to that. Good riddance then, if you're that sensitive. Later!

SonicAlbert:

I have a send and a return on the back of the firestudio used for sidechain FX on channels 1 and 2... I cannot get the firestudio to send the signal from my DAW through the send, to be sent back through the return. I seriously don't know how else to put it....
 
P.S. I couldn't give a flying fuck about bad rep. Any responses now? Try PM'ing me instead of leaving a lame ass anonymous hate-letter. Thanks for all your lovely SUPER-AWESOME comments... They warm my heart.

With love,

-Joel
 
My personal favorites come from my buddie ol' pal: Jamaican

"Fuck you. I was trying to help your worthless imbecile ass but you couldn't take help like a man. I bet you are a spoiled 14 year old. Go suck your daddy's cock you ass maggot."

and this one really touches me:

"Good luck learning to use the simplest recording interface on earth.

Ya douche."

Ahhhhhhhhhhh, how helpful. Thanks again Jamaican for being a totally awesome dude! I'm just so sorry that I'm a dick, resorting to name-calling, using words like "ass maggot" and "imbecile ass". Hahahahahahahahaha you're somethin' else!
 
Thanks, glad you liked it. My number one goal in PMs is to get the pussy ass recipient to post them for everyone to see.

Thanks for making my dreams come true.
 
Just shows who the "dick" really is...

Name a time when I called you a name? Can't? That's right... yet I have -5,000,000 rep points for calling you out. LOL
 
jrhager84 said:
Saying "I'm not here to learn your gear for you" is a HIGHLY offensive thing to say
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What are you, a pussy? Highly offensive? Give me a break. I like how you said you don't give a fuck about neg rep yet you felt you needed to quote what was written to you. And as far as the name calling goes, you called Jamacian a MOFO, which is slightly more offensive than someone telling you that they're not going to learn your gear for you.
 
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