finished overall volume?

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after if finished recording/mixing/mastering and i got it in stereo and at 0db. i play it and its still quiter than say a actul song. yes i have normalized/compress. how can i get it to regular volume. and dont say just tune the mix up cuz then it just clips
 
hard limiting makes it louder but cuts off the stuff that would normally clip. it ruins some of the dynamics so make sure you dont hard limit TOOO much....

or just turn it up. i used to hate clipping when i did the final volume, but for the last few songs i've done it sounds better with it clipping. i do lots of hardcore/grind/metal tho
 
wp001 said:
how can i get it to regular (sic) volume
You HAVE "regular" volume. What you're trying to do is take the mix somewhere it doesn't want to go.

Some (sorry - MOST) mixes, especially those on a severely limited budget, will not have the volume potential of a mix with a $300,000 budget just in labor done on the greatest equipment available run by *teams* of seasoned professionals at every stage.

That, plus experience, experience and experience. If it came in a bottle, everyone's mixes would sound like crap. I mean - "Be really loud."
 
Loudness is the trend more and more these days. Everybody wants their mix to be louder than the next guys. THIS ISN'T NESICARY!!!!! In fact it kills the dynamic range. Remember when soft parts of songs were quieter and heavy parts came right up in your face? I love that when I listen to old records, and you just don't find that anymore. It seems as if we've been trained to think that volume=quality. This just isn't true! If your mix is loud enough to be heard without raising your noise floor too much, it's good. If it's not loud enough to do that, I agree with Cody Suit, in that some hard limiting would be the answer on your master fader track. But be careful you don't want to squash it too much.
 
Mastering

What you are talking about is one of the functions of mastering. It will involve at the least a limiting compressor that will limit the dynamics of the song to a pre-specified level and then raises the overall volume to -1db or so. The trick is to have the limiting as little as possible while getting the volume up as high as possible.Compressing individual tracks can help create some overhead to work with in this situation just don't compress drum overheads.

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