final monitor selection happens now! ha

[shackrock]

alright, i'm tired of using stereo speakers..i can't make my mix "shine". with them. haha. it always sounds so bad on some systems the way i eq things sometimes.

anyway, i want to spend 200 bucks, but i could go to 250 if nessessary.

MAudio BX5 Powered Monitors
Event TR5 Tuned Reference Biamplified Studio Monitors

those are what i'm looking at.
plus, i'll have to get some kind of headphone preamp too now eh?

which on of the 2 would people suggest? and please, dont just say "maudio" - if you have the monitors, tell the pros and cons to you!! haha.

 

[shackrock]

really, please? ha

yes i know, i've read all the other posts. but i still cant decide

 

[christiaan]

flip a coin

 

[regebro]

really, please? ha

yes i know, i've read all the other posts. but i still cant decide

Have you listened to them?

 

[shackrock]

yeah, but I've never taken them home to try em out on my stuff, so i really can't tell haha. i mean, they all sound awesome too me. I can't really judge until i play with different ways i think. just me though. hahahaha...

 

[smpacheco]

I've heard them both at the local banjo mart and actually liked the tr5's better. If my opinion helps, then i would definitely vote for the event tr5s.

 

[Tukkis]

Listen to them both and close your eyes. You want ones that are revealing not flattering. Stereo speakers make music sound good. Studio Monitors make music sound how it really sounds and not hyped.

I haven't heard either so I can't comment personally but I have heard good things about the Event's. In the end though, you can have the most expensive monitors in the world but you still have to learn how they translate to other systems. The more expensive the monitor = the less the learning curve.

Tukkis
Have Fun

 

[willovercome]

i would vote for the m-audio's. i've listened to both, and i think the m-audio is a bit more on the clean and clear side. in other words, what you hear is what is really going on. except for the bass response, they haven't lead me astray yet. the tr5's are good too. i've heard them, but not enough to make an educated analysis of their sonic characteristics. like others have said, flip a coin, or go with the cooler looking ones, or pick the heavest of the two, or do anyting to decide, they'll both sound fine for you.

 

[shackrock]

the main critisism for the tr5 is that it's really hard to judge bass with it. But, that is also i'm sure a problem for the maudios.

i think i'll go m audio, cuz i can get a deal. haha.

 

[ambi]

Yea m audio i think you'll be happy.
Add a sub in the future if the bass is lacking, which it will be.

 

[deemic]

If you can find a pair of either of those monitors for $200.00 new in the box, I'd like to know where.....

 

[sonicpaint]

Good speakers are good speakers.

I've been looking at monitors for that last week or so and I found out something pretty interesting. Does everyone know that the "industry standard" monitors (Yamaha NS 10) were made for home stereos and not studio use? It's true! So as you can guess this brings up a few questions. If they were made for home stereo use, why have they become the standard? I've come to my own conclusion that it's like anything else, word of mouth.

If you were to look around for info on these famous monitors you would find that the frequency curve is far from flat but yet you see them everywhere.

I have heard from may people on the web that they need to get monitors because of the problems they have after mixing when they listen on other systems. Has anyone ever taken in to account that the speakers that they are being used may just be shit speakers all the way around? Just because the are "stereo/house speakers" doesn't mean their no good. It could be that the speakers themselves are no good. I have also read that there has been many well respected mixing engineers that have used speakers that would completely surprise people.

I have been mixing on regular speakers for years now and haven't had any problems with my mixes not translating on house systems or car stereos. Keep in mind that what ever speakers are being used for mixing should be at least descent. There are other things that come into play when monitoring a mix too like where the speakers are placed in the room, how the sound is reflected off of walls and near by surfaces and not the mention others. The person mixing the material has to know his speakers and how they translate. Do some comparisons with your favorite Cd's and understand how they reproduce the music your listening to. Before blaming the speakers just make sure your doing everything that can be done to know your listening environment. Remember if you do get those "studio monitors" your going to need some time to get used to mixing with them too. So is it the monitors or is it the experience with the monitors that counts most? I'd have to say the experience myself.

In my opinion good house speakers and good Studio monitors speakers still have something very important in common, they are still in the end good speakers.

sonicpaint

 

[Aloha]

Very true! good points! More people should think like this.

 

[sonicpaint]

I agree!

I think so too Aloha. I just think that we don't question the norm enough in most cases. I'm sure there are going to be people that don't agree but I just thought I would try to get at least some people thinking outside the box.

later
sonicpaint

 

[Blue Bear Sound]

The important thing about monitors is to find the pair that works for YOU. Monitor selection is extremely subjective.... so much so that other people's opinions on the matter are virtually useless.

 

[malcolm123]

The important thing about monitors is to find the pair that works for YOU. Monitor selection is extremely subjective.... so much so that other people's opinions on the matter are virtually useless.

I once read where Quincy Jones ( or somebody ) did a mix on a old pair of car speakers after the monitors died back in the day. It was too late to get another set of monitors and time was tight,, so they pulled out some car speakers. LOL

I guess he knew his car speakers.

Malcolm

 

[sonicpaint]

BlueBear has a good point too.

I think that BlueBear has a point though I still stand by what I mentioned about good speakers and studio monitor speakers being good speakers. Mixing audio takes a good understanding of a lot of things and knowing how any particular monitors/speakers translate is a big factor that adds to the task.

It's nice to get get some thoughts on how people feel about this "touchy" topic at times. I'd like to hear more of peoples thoughts on this.

Malcolm that's a funny story, though I don't doubt it one bit. When the clock is ticking and time is running out, that's where the resourcefulness of an engineer comes in to play.

sonicpaint

 

[Reggaesoldier]

Yea m audio i think you'll be happy.
Add a sub in the future if the bass is lacking, which it will be.

why will the bass be lacking?

 

[Reggaesoldier]

The important thing about monitors is to find the pair that works for YOU. Monitor selection is extremely subjective.... so much so that other people's opinions on the matter are virtually useless.

but I can't walk into my local GC and test out a vast array of monitors.
They just don't like that shit. atleast around here they don't. IMO the people at GC are useless and the more I learn the more I find that they have no clue what they are talking about. So How would you recommend testing out monitors?

 

[Bulls Hit]

I've been looking at monitors for that last week or so and I found out something pretty interesting. Does everyone know that the "industry standard" monitors (Yamaha NS 10) were made for home stereos and not studio use? It's true! So as you can guess this brings up a few questions. If they were made for home stereo use, why have they become the standard?

I think that engineers tend to employ the NS10 not because it's as a great reference monitor that will accurately reproduce the sound of the mix, but because it does impart quite a bit of colouration, and if they can get the mix to sound good on that, it will sound good on just about anything