Few question about mixers,connecting,yamaha, & mackie:)

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YAMAHA
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA.../0,6373,CNTID%3D15248%26CTID%3D227900,00.html
MACKIE
http://www.mackie.com/home/showimage.html?u=/products/1202vlzpro/images/1202PROBack.jpg
PIC 1
http://www.mackie.com/home/showimage.html?u=/products/1202vlzpro/images/1202PROTopIO.jpg
PIC 2

I am need of 8 budget pres to fill up my 1010lt for use on drums. I am leaning towards getting a mixer and trying to figure out how things get connected. Above are pictures of two mixers I might be buying. As far as I know you hook up your mics through the XLR's. Then buy a male 1/4 to what ever (in this case rca males because of the 1010lt) y-adapter. The male 1/4 side goes into a channel insert. Which makes on side of the Rca input and the other Output. Figure out what is which and hook it up to one ofthe input/output tracks on my 1010lt. Is this correct?

Why is there a mic and line insert on the Yamaha mixer but not on the Mackie?

On the Yamaha which one would you hook up the y-adapter to, the mic or line level insert?

I am still confused how an insert becomes an ouput so if you also have time to explain feel free.

If you look at the 2 Channels farthest to the left and above the XLR (Which I think is channel 9/10/11/12) the inserts change to something diffrent. I really can't make it out but I think it says mono. Can they still be used as seprate tracking channels to my sound card?

Now if you still with me after all thoose question and feel like answer a few more the feel free to :) How much of a diffrence is there between the pre's on the Mackie and Yamaha mixers?

The Yamaha mixer looks like it has a lot more options and is a little cheaper but if the mackie pres are "THAT" much better should I just go for a Mackie?

Well any info will help and thanks for your time.
 
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chad. you only need 3 mics on drums. drum tuning is vitally important.
put a pair of mics XY over kit, and one for the kik.
if you cant get a good drum sound with 3 mics then work on the kits "sound".
for example if the kik or snare sound bad, trigger a sample in a sampler.
also work on the room sound the drums are being recorded in.
on the yamaha mg is a DIRECT OUT(insert) jack. you take a patch chord
from the direct out to a line input on the 1010.
hope this helps.
search under my name for lots of tips ive posted in the last year to help folks on many recording issues.
peace.
 
manning1 said:
chad. you only need 3 mics on drums. drum tuning is vitally important.
put a pair of mics XY over kit, and one for the kik.
if you cant get a good drum sound with 3 mics then work on the kits "sound".
for example if the kik or snare sound bad, trigger a sample in a sampler.
also work on the room sound the drums are being recorded in.
Click to expand...

I don't nesscarly want to use all eight tracks for just drums. I have run into many problems were I need to record more then 2/3/4 tracks at once.

manning1 said:
on the yamaha mg is a DIRECT OUT(insert) jack. you take a patch chord
Click to expand...
This will yeild me with just one channel out right? I am looking to be able to use all channels with pres on them as seprate tracking channel. 8 channels out of the Yamaha/Mackie into 8 diffrent channels on my 1010lt


Trust me I have search your posts and a lot of your advice has come in handy. I can't thankyou a much.
 
Also, a 3 mic method is ONE type of drum sound you can use. It is not capable of producing certain production styles, and when you want that "close mic'ed" sound, 3 mics just won't do. Far too often, home recording guys just don't have a room suitable for decent "ambiant" drum recording, and close micing is about the only way you can get anything usable. I agree though that you should work on getting the best drums possible. GIGO

Search under my name for lots of tips ive posted in the last 6 years to help folks on many recording issues. ;)

Sorry, the link to the Yamaha is no longer valid, so I couldn't take a look at what it has.
 
chad ...on the mg just repeat for every channel.
mg drct out 1>>delta in 1
mg drct out 2>>delta in 2
mg drct out 3>>delta in 3
etc etc and so on and so forth
 
You hit it on the head. I am recording in a basment and needless to say the rome is terriable. So everything is going to have to be close mic'ed, which requires me to use more then three mics.

The link has been updated. I just borrowed the Mackie mixer that I have pictured above. So if you can give some idea how to get the four channels out to 4 diffrent tracks that be great.
 
manning1 said:
chad ...on the mg just repeat for every channel.
mg drct out 1>>delta in 1
mg drct out 2>>delta in 2
mg drct out 3>>delta in 3
etc etc and so on and so forth
Click to expand...

Did you take a look at the rear panel view. I don't see Direct Outs or am I missing something. All I see is a 1/4 mic, 1/4 line, and xlr inputs for each channel.
 
There are two diffrent I/O's one is mic and one is line. To come out of thoose I need a Y adapter right?
 
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