Fender guitar pickups?

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I bought a Fender Squier Stratocaster yesterday for my small little studio and it has really nice action, but I think the pickups on it suck (they sound cheesy). Are there better Fender replacement pickups I could get for it (without drilling, sawing, etc) and if so, which ones do you recommend? It's got three single coil pickups on it. Thanks
 
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texas specials?

can someone tell me its difference from a regular American strat's pickups or Japanese's?
AL
 
Re: texas specials?

A1A2 said:
can someone tell me its difference from a regular American strat's pickups or Japanese's?
AL

The only difference between any two pickups is out put.
 
Very cool! Let us know what you think of 'em.

BTW when I installed mine, I bought a new pickguard, switches and the works. I really thing that's the best way to do it because if you don't like the new sound it's no trouble to go back and you can look at the old wiring while you putting the new stuff on to make sure you've got it right.
 
For the pickup impaired...
The winding machines used in the 50s and 60s might vary in the number of winds by as much as a couple hundred.Today's machines are much more precise.These "overwound" pickups were a normal variation at the time and they put out a slightly hotter signal.SRV and his tech simply got a lot of vintage pickups and put a volt-ohm meter on them to measure the voltage output.Fender is now mass-producing these overwound pickups and marketing them under the "Texas Special" name.
They are a bit louder,but all other charactoristics of timbre are the same as standard Fender pickups.The lace sensors are the hum-reducing variety prefered by many.Also,a lot of guys will put a stack humbucker in the bridge position for more variety of tone.
 
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64Firebird said:
The only difference between any two pickups is out put.

That sounds pretty deep. but thanks

Thanks for the explaination, Tom


AL
 
sorry to hear you missed out on the bill lawrence pickups

i hope the specials work out for you.
 
What would be the best pickup choice for maintaining the standard "Strat tones" while improving the performance of the stock Squire pups?


Twist
 
The only difference between any two pickups is out put.
They are a bit louder,but all other charactoristics of timbre are the same as standard Fender pickups.
Not true. First, pickups vary greatly both in output and in timbre, depending on the magnet material used (Alnico II, Alnico V, or ceramic), the type of wrapping wire used, the amount of turns of wire, number of coils, pole piece material, etc...

If you take two identical pickups, then overwind one, the pickup doesn't only get louder. It changes timbre too, becoming more mid-heavy and darker. The classic Strat sound can be characterized as "bright, glassy, quacky." These are characteristics of the relatively small number of winds on those pickups, compared to more modern pickups. A more modern version might be less glassy, less bright, sound thicker, punchier, or ballsier, due to the increased number of coil winds (even if the magnet material and winding material is identical).
 
twist said:
What would be the best pickup choice for maintaining the standard "Strat tones" while improving the performance of the stock Squire pups?


Twist

That's what my question was, only you worded it better. And the guitar dudes here said Texas Specials.

My new pickups should be here tomorrow or the next day. Now, I need a standard Fender Strat head logo for my Squier. lol. Thanks again everyone.
 
DJL,

Would you please post back to this thread later after you get your new pickups, just to let us know what you think of your upgrade?

Where did you order your Texas Specials from?

Thanks,
Twist
 
WOOPS.........

Originally posted by 64Firebird :
"The only difference between any two pickups is out put."


HA, IT'S SUCH AN EASY THING TO SAY, IT JUST ROLLS OFF THE TONGUE........

lol

so i said a similar thing to bill on the phone, not meaning what i said.
this is what he told me.
and it's true.

COURTESY OF BILL LAWRENCE........

I'm asked by players, over and over, " How much output do your pickups have?" This is a very disturbing question because one should consider, no matter how much output your pickup has, you'll never get more than 50 watts out of a 50 watt amplifier!


Rating Pickups with DC Resistance


DC resistance is NOT a power rating; it is the resistance of the wire in a pickup's coil at zero hertz, something that only occurs when the guitar isn't played. If some marketers use DC resistance as a power rating for an AC device, like a pickup, then they only show their ignorance. If we use DC resistance as a parameter, we disregard the fact that, due to Pe and other conditions that result in eddy currents, the effective resistance (Rac) is frequency dependant.

DC resistance (Rdc) tells you as much about a pickup's tone and output as the shoe size tells you about a person's intelligence!



Millivolts

The output rating of pickups is generally given in millivolts (mV). Millivolts could be a helpful parameter if all manufacturers would agree on a standard measuring method that provides such data over a wide frequency range. Now, let's say with this information, we plot an impressive-looking graph showing the different output levels at various frequencies -- does this give you a good idea of the sonic character of a pickup? Yes and no. Don't forget that not every guitar is created equal, and neither are the players. We use different kinds of strings, cables, amps and speakers, and a pickup is only one link in a chain that finally determines tone and output.



Inductance

Inductance ( henry) is another valuable parameter for the sonic evaluation of a pickup but requires some basic understanding of electrodynamics. As a general rule, the higher the inductance, the lesser the highs. For example, a traditional strat pickup has an inductance around 2.3 henry while a Gibson PAF has an inductance around 4.4 henry and some of the so-called "distortion" pickups have an inductance above 8.0 henry. With these comparisons, you get a basic idea. Besides inductance, there are other factors that also need to be considered in projecting tone and output of a pickup.


Tone and output mainly depend on the relation between inductance, magnetic strength and the efficiency of the pickup, as well as the relation between the inductance of the pickup and the capacitance of the cable.
 
DJL,

You will like your Texas Specials, trust me. They keep that Fender tone just fine.
 
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