Feedback Appreciated!!

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jake-owa said:
Best advice I can give you is to stop singing.

Seriously.
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...or find a voice teacher ;) I'm sure he could get good results. Indeed, IMHO, it's globally not so bad!

Earl.
 
What songs are the vocals so terrible on? What parts? I do appreciate the feedback.
I have never heard comments like these before. Most people like the songs.
Thanks
 
strange tune.. almost reminds me of some older Nirvana.. the recording sounds pretty clean.. the guitar may be a bit out of tune which could be making the vocal situation worse..
 
Could you please say which song you are referring to when posting? Thanks BSabbath for the comments.

As far as vocals - what exactly is so bad? Out of tune? EQ? etc?

Thanks
 
sounds to me like bass strings slightly out of tune and a couple of guitar not quite on the mark. The singing is pretty straight on. The singing seems a bit too gregorian and lacking in dynamic articulation which makes it sound very monotonous. Perhaps some simple down/up 4/4 strumming would also help give it some life, instead of the all downstrokes that are prevalent throughout the piece.
 
That was very helpful feedback.

I agree with the comment about vocals sounding monotonous. How can this be improved? Is it just a matter of being more excited and emotional while singing? Or can it be attributed to something else (like the equipment [mic's not sounding warm enough]).

What are some tips on improving the dynamics of vocals?

Thank you very much
 
sing like your the last chance mankind has. Sing like your trying to make the only thing you`ve ever loved as its walking away from you, stop and turn around . Beg, plead, command while your singing.
 
I think the tunes could use a little forward monentum. They don't seem to go anywhere. There are definitely intonation issues with the vocals, especially on the first song. Maybe you could develop a little vibrato in your voice. I know this sounds harsh but I think there is a lot of work to do here. Take this criticism for what its worth. If you really like what you are doing and are convinced its good then disregard what you will. I find it difficult to listen to what I do critically, but I think this ability is the key to great songwriting.
 
Seriously I dont think the comments are harsh in any respect. I think it is helpful. I am quite aware that people (myself included) are more apt to think what they are doing is better than what it is. This is why I am asking for criticisms. When people say I should stop singing - I am only amused. However I take true constructive criticisms to heart. This is what this board (and others) are for - the trading of knowledge, opinions and advice.

Thanks
 
Sorry, I listened to betrayed.
I thought it sounded alright at the begining but quickly devolved into a whiney drooner of mush. It even got worse a few times until I could no longer handle it. If it were my song I would scrap it and move on. The nylon guitar was out of tune and so were the lyrics. The tone of your voice was nauseating but then I feel the same way about Kurt Kobain so take that as you will. I have a hard time believing that anyone you know listens to this while you are not around. Most likely when people say they like it they are trying not to hurt your feelings. You won't have that problem with me.

I'm always honest. I meant it when I said you should stop singing but voice lessons may help....quit whining!

Take it any way you want it, Jake
 
I listened to the first tune.

There isn't much I can add to what already has been said.

The singing is making my dog howl and the guitar sounds like a toy.
 
Alright......

Upon reading my last post I seem like a bigger Dick than usual.

Try to NOT hang the words so long while singing. Your voice is like an instrument that you should use to do what you do best, since your range is limited (mine is too) be more precise and Don't do the Falsetto thing. Thats where you really get lost.

Toki had a good idea for the guitar playing. This sounds like a nylon string and it may be out of tune in parts. How was this recorded? Is it possible for you to tweak the sound of the guitar at all?

Improvement can always be made on anything.
 
It is a nylon stringed classical. I play it like an acoustic because it has a great tone (whether I can get that recorded is another thing apparently..ha). However, my setup is pretty nickel and dime. I have 1 SM57 and 1 SM58. I run it thru a Behringer board and into a cheap Soundblaster PCI128 card. It is mixed thru headphones. Given all that - I, and others, are usually impressed with the results. I have since picked up a Soundcraft M12 board and a Delta 1010. I hope to get some sort of condenser in the next month or two.

I have listened to Betrayed after these comments and understand what you are all saying. I was 50-50 on the falsetto thing. I asked a bunch of people - and people seemed to like it for whatever reason so I kept it there. However, the more I listen to it - the more I think it probably needs to change.

Additionally, I think some of the troubles have to do with the SM58 because the only song I have that was recorded with another mic (akg 3000b) seems better. Also I have a deep voice which I probably dont properly utilize (which is one comment Ive received before). Additionally - as far as emotional charge goes - my rough demo-type takes always sound better because Im playing while singing so Im more into it. When I try to record just vocals I dont have that vigor (and thus it sounds monotonous)

Thanks again...
 
your voice sounds like tired suffering - but it's you could improve that by covering+recording some songs that you like and then comparing your version with the original - about the mixes, you have a lot to learn, but believe me, this is the right place!

good luck&cheers
 
I listened to Betrayed.

I think the intonation issues, while certainly present, are something that can be overcome with practice. I notice two things. One is that when you miss a note, you'll often slide into the correct note. The other thing is that when you hold a note for a long period of time, the pitch wavers a bit.

That tells me that your ear can pick up on pitch. It also tells me it's almost as much a style thing as a pitch thing. Listen to the note at :33 as an example of what I mean by sliding into a note. Also listen to the "Who" at 1:56. Just slightly off. Listen to "betrayed" at about 1:24 - 1:27 and see if you can tell the pitch wavers.

Watch the breathing. Some gasps for breath were a bit loud.

Not sure how you miced the acoustic guit, but it had a kind of "far off" sound. Sometime try the 57 at the 12th fret pointed towards the sound hole and see what you get. Turn the mic pre's up as hot as you can without clipping.

The the vocal thing beginning at 2:37 doesn't work too well.

My thoughts. Trip...
 
You have the right attitude.

And with that you will make improvements consistently.
We are all here at different levels but each of us strives to improve. It's refreshing to read your comments, and note that instead of making excuses, or getting defensive, you are looking for ways to take what you have and get the most out of it.

Welcome aboard!
You have already showed me something I can improve on.......


Joel;)
 
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