Favorite Out of Key Chords

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Roel said:


That's actually pretty bad... It's a V-IV-I sequence... You should play the C first, then the D if you wanna end on G!

C

*takes breath*

D

*takes breath*

GEE-GEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

TAKA BOOM!!
 
Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!

D, C, G...

"Sweet Home Alabama"

Jon
 
jjtcorsair said:
Rules? We don't need no stinkin' rules!

D, C, G...

"Sweet Home Alabama"

Jon
Yeah, and it proved out to be one of the most disgusting songs of the century:D

Seriously, if it sounds good, you don't need any rules, but knowledge of harmony often opens more perspectives while writing songs.
 
Wait isnt there an F in this progression.. or is .. it... zzzzzz......


sorry, fell asleep during that song:D
 
**joro slaps BrettB**
WAKE UP :D



It starts D,C,G then goes to D,F,G....
 
Holy Fuck ...I just shit myself and had a seizure all at once reading this thread....


These Belgians are gonna take over the world one day..... One Chord at a time.. :eek:
 
VOXVENDOR said:



These Belgians are gonna take over the world one day.....

you bet you're right. It starts with infiltrating on internet boards and it ends with world leadership! Beware you Americans, soon you'll all be eating waffles and chocolates, drink Belgian Beer and have uncensored TV, a decent health insurance universities that have resonable fees.

Well, those were the good points of our future world dominantion, the bad ones are you'll all have to donate your recording gear to me and Roel:D

Joro: D..C...C is a plagal V IV I cadence, according to classical music this is not good, but what the hell with those classical guys:). then it goes V bVII I: again a plagal cadence, but bVII is lend from Gminor instead of the G major key.
 
BrettB said:



Joro: D..C...C is a plagal V IV I cadence, according to classical music this is not good, but what the hell with those classical guys:). then it goes V bVII I: again a plagal cadence, but bVII is lend from Gminor instead of the G major key.

Hey man...no fair.....are you speaking Belgian??:D
 
Would you guys be able to tell me all of the available sub-dominant minor chords?
 
poo said:
Would you guys be able to tell me all of the available sub-dominant minor chords?

What do you mean: the subdominant chords in the minor scale or minor chords that are subdominant? If you mean the last: it can be quite a few when you count modal interchange in so you need to specify which is your basic mode or scale.

If you mean the first: the subdominant chords in the minor (aeolian) scale are IImi7(b5)IVmi7, bVImaj7 and bVII7, but remember they can be changed when talking about melodic or harmonic minor. (use the link I mention earlier in the thread to view the different modal scales).

In the traditional major key you got IImi7 as only subdominant minor chord, if that's what you mean?
 
It is important to match the dominant chord with a compatible submissive chord, although it is the submissive chord that is actually in control.
 
I was referring to the second one, Brett. For example, instead of using the regular IVmi, you can use bVImi, IIm7b5, bVII etc?
How can you use modal interchange with subdominant minor chords?

thanks
 
poo said:
I was referring to the second one, Brett. For example, instead of using the regular IVmi, you can use bVImi, IIm7b5, bVII etc?
How can you use modal interchange with subdominant minor chords?

thanks


Phew, that one's more difficult, I guess you just gotta try what fits in I guess... When I think of more commonly used, I think maybe of using in a major context IVmi and Vmi coming from the minor scales, bVIImi from the phrygian scale, #IVmi7(b5) from Lydian, bIImi7(b5) from the minor scale or even VImi7(b5) coming from Dorian, IIImi7(b5) from mixolydian. Remember mi7(b5) chords are quite instable so more difficult to use, although the #IV one can give some nice chord changing possibilities if used right...

I'm not sure how to define bVImi in a modal interchange way, but don't forget the cadences who give you lots of other possibilities to use minor chords in a subdominant way (like bVImi -bII7- bV, although that one would be really weird:D, so you can interpretate that like an modulation going to the bV as the new key).

Any dominant or temporary dominant can have a relative minor or half diminished so it opens lots of possibilities there...
 
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