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Mistral
RyosaMusic
some background:
Recorded by 2 people: me, and the drummer.
tracked in Cool Edit Pro
Mixed in Cubase
Mastered with Steinberg Mastering Edition
more info upon request.
fans of melodic metal please give me your reviews, other comments welcome too.
some background:
Recorded by 2 people: me, and the drummer.
tracked in Cool Edit Pro
Mixed in Cubase
Mastered with Steinberg Mastering Edition
more info upon request.
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Shazukura
New member
Mistral,
Pretty good overall. For my taste, the vocals seem a bit "buried" in the rest of the mix. Also, I'd suggest playing around with the synth elememts some to try to get a better fit with the rest of the score. The kick has a good punch, but lacks a good deep thump.
I'll give you 3 stars out of 5,
-Shaz
http://www.pobox.com/~whichcraft
Pretty good overall. For my taste, the vocals seem a bit "buried" in the rest of the mix. Also, I'd suggest playing around with the synth elememts some to try to get a better fit with the rest of the score. The kick has a good punch, but lacks a good deep thump.
I'll give you 3 stars out of 5,
-Shaz
http://www.pobox.com/~whichcraft
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warlock
New member
The vocals are a bit buried and the guitars sound a bit harshish.
Otherwise very good.....
I give you 4 points out of 5
Keijo
Otherwise very good.....
I give you 4 points out of 5
Keijo
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jrlemonz
New member
Melodic Metal? I think not, but I liked it. I'd bring the vox up a bit, but overall I think the mix sounds really good. The high hats are a bit too prominent during the part 2 and a half minutes in. I'd tame the guitars a bit too, maybe cut some high end or put a bit of verb on them. My same ol' comment - get a real drummer playing on real drums and the song will be 10000000x better! I hate canned drums, I'm sorry! I know some people don't have access to the eqipment, but if I were you I'd work for it. The song really was good, and the addition of real drums would make it a whole lot better.
Jake
Jake
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Mistral
RyosaMusic
Um.. The drummer was real. Where do you get the idea that it isn't, if I could program a drum machine with such technique, I'd be one hell of a drum programmer. And if you don't call that melodic metal, what do you call it? Glad you like the music, but some of your comments are a bit baffling. As for what would make it sound better, some top quality equipment, such as mics and studio gear, that would, yes, but unfortunately I don't have the luxury of purchasing these things.
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jrlemonz
New member
Damn that drummer's tight then. I really thought it was a drum machine. The sounds don't sound natural to me or something. What kind of mic'ing setup did you use and what kind of kit does he play?
Jake
Jake
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Mistral
RyosaMusic
I'm not sure of the exact model of the kit but they are Premiers. he uses a Gibraltar double bass pedal.. and the usual mix of sabian and zildjian brass.. The drummer is my best friend who has always worked with me on projects or full bands, when we had one.
Anyways, I borrowed some shure mics, not the proper model and they were bidirectional but hey.. gotta make do right. we had 5 mics total, a 12 channel mixer and my laptop. Being that it only has a standard soundcard with a single stereo line-in, I had to be creative with how to track it to keep the snare, kick and overheads all seperated to give me some room to work with come mix time.. so we actually did 2 takes, the first, I kept only the kick and snare channels recording, panned dead left and right through the mixing board and into the soundcard, and recorded into seperate mono tracks in cool edit pro. Then the next take, he played the same thing and we recorded only the overheads in stereo onto a third track. the snare track had alot of bleed so I added triggers to it to clean it up so we could get the kind of sound we wanted on it. That's basically it.
Anyways, I borrowed some shure mics, not the proper model and they were bidirectional but hey.. gotta make do right. we had 5 mics total, a 12 channel mixer and my laptop. Being that it only has a standard soundcard with a single stereo line-in, I had to be creative with how to track it to keep the snare, kick and overheads all seperated to give me some room to work with come mix time.. so we actually did 2 takes, the first, I kept only the kick and snare channels recording, panned dead left and right through the mixing board and into the soundcard, and recorded into seperate mono tracks in cool edit pro. Then the next take, he played the same thing and we recorded only the overheads in stereo onto a third track. the snare track had alot of bleed so I added triggers to it to clean it up so we could get the kind of sound we wanted on it. That's basically it.
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jrlemonz
New member
The triggers are what must make my ears scream electronics. Anyways, the song is pretty cool. I definately wouldnt call it melodic metal though, the screaming parts are very black metal reminiscent, although the music is not. It's more like a metal-core/grind-core type thing. I don't know, maybe some very tame death metal, but most of the song is anything but melodic.
Jake
Jake
joro
The Pie Guy
I can't understand the lyrics but,
I'm diggin the tune in general.
Sorta more Ozzie-ish music wise I think...
yeah ,pretty cool.
I can't comment on the mechanics because I am not qualified....
I just know what I like.
Yeah........pretty cool dude.
I'm diggin the tune in general.
Sorta more Ozzie-ish music wise I think...
yeah ,pretty cool.
I can't comment on the mechanics because I am not qualified....
I just know what I like.
Yeah........pretty cool dude.
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Mistral
RyosaMusic
metalcore? grindcore? shit man, no way. I can't stand metalcore. anyways that was more of an experimental song, the next material I finish and post here will most undeniably be very european influenced melodic metal. very different from that last song cause I'm starting to record an album. if you've ever heard of enslavement of beauty or eternal tears of sorrow, more along those lines.
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Mistral
RyosaMusic
joro said:
thanks! perhaps a bit of ozzy in the melody. definitely not consciously though. more accurate than metalcore, that's for sure.
I draw some influence from swedish and finnish metal bands, and I doubt more than 1 or 2 others here at most even listen to anything like that.
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jrlemonz
New member
Not trying to insult you, but other then the vocals, it could very well be any other metalcore song. Sorry if I don't see in your music what you do. I do listen to some swedish/finnish black metal, and I would't compare anything in this song other then the vocals in some parts to it. The music doesn't have the qualities of it. Sorry if you take this as an insult, it isn't meant to be.
Jake
Jake
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Mistral
RyosaMusic
none taken but,
out of curiosity, do you listen to terror 2000? the haunted? therion? kalmah? dark tranquility? children of bodom?
there are many styles of melodic metal in scandinavia, of which all of the above are, and I could compare to this song in some way, I never said anything about it being black metal.
we all interpret things in different ways, I'm just telling it like it is, believe me I listen to more kinds of metal and more bands than the average person to know the difference. Nevertheless I don't strive to sound like any particular other band, but if there's one thing that's disgusting to me it is most american "metal" and hardcore, which is basically where the term "metalcore" was coined, along with every other "core". frankly I just don't find anything like that in my music, the closest thing being maybe thrash, which again, is more along the lines of terror 2k and the haunted, both swedish melodic thrash bands, borderline "gothenburg" stuff.
when you say metalcore, that brings to mind bands like meshuggah, zao, dillinger escape plan, (newer) living sacrifice, (newer) sepultura. all quite different from each other but all seem to have that purposeful blend of metal and hardcore.
anyhoo, whatever.
out of curiosity, do you listen to terror 2000? the haunted? therion? kalmah? dark tranquility? children of bodom?
there are many styles of melodic metal in scandinavia, of which all of the above are, and I could compare to this song in some way, I never said anything about it being black metal.
we all interpret things in different ways, I'm just telling it like it is, believe me I listen to more kinds of metal and more bands than the average person to know the difference. Nevertheless I don't strive to sound like any particular other band, but if there's one thing that's disgusting to me it is most american "metal" and hardcore, which is basically where the term "metalcore" was coined, along with every other "core". frankly I just don't find anything like that in my music, the closest thing being maybe thrash, which again, is more along the lines of terror 2k and the haunted, both swedish melodic thrash bands, borderline "gothenburg" stuff.
when you say metalcore, that brings to mind bands like meshuggah, zao, dillinger escape plan, (newer) living sacrifice, (newer) sepultura. all quite different from each other but all seem to have that purposeful blend of metal and hardcore.
anyhoo, whatever.