Event 20/20s in a 12x8 room?

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Im into, r&b, soul, hip-hop and a bit of reggae. I need to know if the 20/20s can give me, a heavy low end and good bass response. Hard hitting mids, and a sparkling hi end. I was going to buy Mackies 624s but I am sure as hell not going to spend that much on my first pair of monitors. Thanks in advance, Skye.
 
http://www.westlakeaudio.com/manufacturing/pro/bbsm15.html

(Might wanna get two more part-time jobs, these guise want more for a set of speaker cables than you'd spend on 3 pairs of the Mackies...)

Seriously, no 8" speaker will give you "heavy" bottom end; they just can't physically move enough air. You'd be better off investing in a 10" Hafler sub with the 2020's... Steve

(Not to mention that, unless your 12 x 8 foot room has a 38 foot ceiling, it won't support low bass naturally - sooo, any low end will require even more power, and STILL won't sound as good as it would in a 4000 Cu. Ft. room)
 
Wow!

Them shits are incredible!

Im looking at the 12s & 10s, the 15s are ugly. :D

Seriously, how much to the 10s and 12s go for?

Ill look into Hafler with the 20/20s too, thanks man!
 
skye,

I'm using Event 20/20s in a room not much bigger than yours. Understand that if you're using them to mix and all that matters is the final mix, you can "learn" the monitors and compensate accordingly for the lack of bass response.

A mix might sound a little thin in the bass, for example, on your 20/20s in your 12' x 8' room, but sound very phat and loud... just as it should be... in the neighbor kid's subwoofer equipped Honda Civic. You'll grow "used to" what your monitors can reproduce and sound like, and you can learn to compensate when mixing to get the sounds you're after...

OTOH, if you're just trying to build a nice listening environment... with lotsa low SHAKY BASS response for parties or something... yeah, this post won't help much :D


Chad
 
As you noticed on their website, there is no price list - It's kinda like the old yacht salesman joke - "if you have to ask, you can't afford it" -

Last time I was able to find ANY prices, I think the 15's were going for around $50k, don't remember if that was EACH or for a pair - some of the Genelec's go for about $40k a pair, and that includes the factory tech coming to your facility and setting them up. The 10's would be less, I'm guessing around $15k a pair. I read a review of the 5's a few years ago, and their custom CABLES were just over $1000 a pair! (There were even some "golden ear" types who claimed they could hear a marked difference, and maybe they could, who knows?)

Bottom line, I gotta save for a set of 5 KRK V8's longer than I have patience for, so the Westlakes are in my "You just won a $50 million lottery" fantasy...

I got the Hafler 10" sub on a closeout for $299, wanted two so I could run stereo subs but it got back-ordered then canceled due to stock shortages. They have a newer model, improved connection options and rounded corners seems to be the only difference, but it'll be more $, probably around $600 or so mail order. Mackie and KRK are both too proud of their subs for my wallet (over $1k) so I was glad to get the Hafler. I'll be using it with a Denon 3802 AV reciever, which has 6 discrete amps that can be run straight with no DSP if needed, and 5 KRK K-ROK passive monitors for now. I was running a pair of the K-ROK's with a Yamaha 120 watt sub, which worked really well. Difference between us is, I want stuff FLAT, not bass-hyped, so the sub just made everybody ask how I was getting that good a bass out of those K-ROK's (sub was behind the mix station out of sight)

If you're interested, the Yamaha sub is a YSM-150, if I remember correctly - It went (at Sears, huh???) for about $329. It has a 24 dB/octave crossover, so you don't notice any phasing problems at the crossover freq. If you set the levels right and cross it over at about 80 hZ, you can't tell which is coming from the nearfields and which is coming from the sub. (But you sure CAN tell when you turn the sub OFF)

Hope that helped some - after I win that $50 mil Powerball, I'll let you know how the BBSM-15's sound with matched $10,000 power amps... Steve
 
Anytime I need more OOMPH on my stereo or my monitors, I take a mono signal out of the stereo or mixer and run it to my Peavey 400 bass amp with Cerwin Vega 18" speaker cabinet. It shakes the freakin walls. The point is, you don't have to spend a ton of money on expensive monitors just to boost your low end. You can use another stereo or amplifier for that.
 
Oh No!.. Look who came through the back do!

Damn, I never thought those would be that expensive. I mos def dont have enough to even buy the 6s, lol. I think it would be alot better if I just bought some stereo speakers, then a good pair of monitors so I can mix a bit better. One question,

If I buy powered monitors, I can hook those up to a mixer.

Then, I could run a stereo amp w/ speakers to the mixer also?

So at the same time, I could mix, flick over to the speakers and see how they sound. Maybe a small 30$ pair of desktops, and then check the mix on those? Isnt it good to check on a few diff pairs of monitors/speakers? I think :D

Thanks, Skye
 
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