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Hey ya'll,
Hear the water to wine bit.
I do have a 58 and that's what I've been using.
I guess I'm just a real newbie or something...thing is, I've read like three books on recording and technique, and been doing it (actually recording stuff) for about a year, (musician trying to make my own albums) talked with everybody i can think of...and either I'm stupid, or just have bad hearing in the booth. I've messed with mic placement to hear the diff frequency responses, and yes, on guitar I too used to outboard EQ and Compress as the signal went to the recorder (I stopped that a bit ago)...now try to rely on mic placement to get the tone...my problems are many...geez...where to begin.
In a nut shell, I do understand that one can not make a practice amp sound like a marshall...but I can't even get a good distorted sound. It's either too tinny and shrill, or to flubby and loose...I just want a nice tight distortion...will try boosting the master, and taking off the gain...but onto bigger aspects...my recordings sound muffled...to combat this, I've been rolling off the bass freq on a lot of instruments...but I have trouble finding the right mix cause then it gets to crisp and shrill.
I know it sounds like two different issues...getting the right guitar tone...and getting a crisp clean overall mix...but I know they are related...it's like my ear hears one thing, then when I actually sit down to listen to the mix, it's not at all how I pictured it...the guitar sounds to shrill, or not shrill enough...but when i listen to it soloed it sounds great. Now, I know, you must fit things in the mix...and I've done that, I give each instrument thier own perametric EQ freqs to let them come through...but still...the final mix is almost almost muddy...or shrill when i roll some bass freqs off the different instruments.
Any suggestions on that??? I've heard to be very carefull when boosting 200-800 Hz cause they are all big offenders of muddiness...But then you get people like Mitchell Froom who's married to Suzanne Vega...check out the album "9 Objects of Desire" by Suzanne...run it through an EQ and watch the lights bounce...Mitchell (I assume it was him, but probably the engineer now that I think about it) anyway, that whole album barely has ANY lights bouncing above like 800 Hz (serious, like the lights bounce up one level {Except for Suzannes breath and SS and "T" sounds})...they all bounce like crazy in the bass region...and every single instrument comes through so CLEAR! AND there are some serious high pitched instruments that just sound SO GOOD! The album does have a warm feeling...but certainly nowhere near muddy.
Okay, I've taken this in another direction sort of...have at it if ya'll like.
PS thanks again for the guitar advice, I'll try different amps...my roommate has a Mesa...I'll see what that does through my 58.
Hear the water to wine bit.
I do have a 58 and that's what I've been using.
I guess I'm just a real newbie or something...thing is, I've read like three books on recording and technique, and been doing it (actually recording stuff) for about a year, (musician trying to make my own albums) talked with everybody i can think of...and either I'm stupid, or just have bad hearing in the booth. I've messed with mic placement to hear the diff frequency responses, and yes, on guitar I too used to outboard EQ and Compress as the signal went to the recorder (I stopped that a bit ago)...now try to rely on mic placement to get the tone...my problems are many...geez...where to begin.
In a nut shell, I do understand that one can not make a practice amp sound like a marshall...but I can't even get a good distorted sound. It's either too tinny and shrill, or to flubby and loose...I just want a nice tight distortion...will try boosting the master, and taking off the gain...but onto bigger aspects...my recordings sound muffled...to combat this, I've been rolling off the bass freq on a lot of instruments...but I have trouble finding the right mix cause then it gets to crisp and shrill.
I know it sounds like two different issues...getting the right guitar tone...and getting a crisp clean overall mix...but I know they are related...it's like my ear hears one thing, then when I actually sit down to listen to the mix, it's not at all how I pictured it...the guitar sounds to shrill, or not shrill enough...but when i listen to it soloed it sounds great. Now, I know, you must fit things in the mix...and I've done that, I give each instrument thier own perametric EQ freqs to let them come through...but still...the final mix is almost almost muddy...or shrill when i roll some bass freqs off the different instruments.
Any suggestions on that??? I've heard to be very carefull when boosting 200-800 Hz cause they are all big offenders of muddiness...But then you get people like Mitchell Froom who's married to Suzanne Vega...check out the album "9 Objects of Desire" by Suzanne...run it through an EQ and watch the lights bounce...Mitchell (I assume it was him, but probably the engineer now that I think about it) anyway, that whole album barely has ANY lights bouncing above like 800 Hz (serious, like the lights bounce up one level {Except for Suzannes breath and SS and "T" sounds})...they all bounce like crazy in the bass region...and every single instrument comes through so CLEAR! AND there are some serious high pitched instruments that just sound SO GOOD! The album does have a warm feeling...but certainly nowhere near muddy.
Okay, I've taken this in another direction sort of...have at it if ya'll like.
PS thanks again for the guitar advice, I'll try different amps...my roommate has a Mesa...I'll see what that does through my 58.
