EQ or compression?

[heylow]

Re: Re: Re: d) None of the above

do you guys listen to much "emo"?

man, talk about compression being essential.....

emo?


emo phillips?!


I'd use EQ

 

[VotaIdiota]

Re: Re: Re: Re: d) None of the above

emo?


emo phillips?!


I'd use EQ

nah nah nah...... "emo", that blanket statement for whiny white guy music....... think pre-Bleed American Jimmy Eat World, Braid, Sunny Day Real Estate, or even for a very recent startup, Thursday.
the whole whisper/screaming thing is really, REALLY popular with this type of music..... that, and octave chords.....

 

[Downside Studio]

In this case, what would be wrong if some newbie did run out and get a limiter for this purpose? I'd say it would be . . . oh, how about A REALLY GOOD IDEA. (?)

I suppose you like the sound of digital clipping then, eh, Downside?

What's your beef with limiters, anyway, Downside? Huh? What did they ever do to you? Are we going to have to take this outside? You wanna' piece of that limiter? I'll give you a piece o' that there limiter, pal.

Hahaha, well if you really want to be safe, than you'll defenitly will have to buy all cables double, extra powercords, triple the amount of tape you actually need, safety goggles and safety shoes. that way you'll be sure your recording cant go wrong...unless you screw it up.

Or you could just set your gain safe. A newbie spending his of her money on a multichannel limiter for recording could spend the money better.

 

[VotaIdiota]

Hahaha, well if you really want to be safe, than you'll defenitly will have to buy all cables double, extra powercords, triple the amount of tape you actually need, safety goggles and safety shoes. that way you'll be sure your recording cant go wrong...unless you screw it up.

and condoms......... for the hookers.

 

[Robert D]

I'm in the middle of a re-think on this subject. Eq is the easy one, don't use it during tracking, unless it's to use a Pultech or some other golden EQ.
Compression and/or limiting is the one I'm re-considering, as it pertains to vocal recording. Recording vocals is so much about captureing emotion, and that's such a fragile thing. Once you start telling a singer "Stand right here on this X" "Try and keep your lips from moving away from or any closer to the mic than this" or "I need you to back awy from the mic when you hit those high notes", or the worst..."That was awesome, but I need you to do it again, cause we pegged out on that take", then that emotion can fly right out the window. When I'm recording myself, I stand there in front of the mic, thinking more about the meters than about what I'm singing, and I move away from the mic when I need to, or sing off axis to it, or whatever the mic and pre need me to do to keep those meters happy. That's not working the mic....that's the mic working you! Working the mic is moving in for proximity effect and breathyness, moving out for a more open sound, etc.
For these reasons, I'm starting to warm up to the idea of using dynamic processing while recording vocals.
For other instruments, I've always said record it flat, but have a limiter in line that is there only as an insurance policy. If it never sees the threshold, perfect.
My 2 cents, RD

 

[Stefan Elmblad]

I voted for compression as I (almost) never use more EQ than the lowcut on my console.
A good compressor can work a bit like a EQ in a sense too...
If you're using EQ to balance out dead/too loud frequencies in a instrument, a compressor is equal or better at that task for instance. Also, if you're doing a multiband compression it can be used as a very smooth wideband EQ.

Just my 2 SEK
Stefan

 

[Downside Studio]

A newbie spending his of her money on a multichannel limiter for recording could spend the money better.

Mistype...I ment to write :

A newbie spending his part of her money on a multichannel limiter for recording could spend the money better.

 

[Fela]

Robert D. Your ideas on recording and controlling signals are about identical to mine. I learn all of the traditional recording techniques here in school but throw out what does not work in my own recordings in my project studio.

However, Pultecs are for mastering. If you are not mastering why use a pultec ? I don't advocate EQ on tracking but if I were I would use something more tracking oriented like a focusrite or something like that. Pultecs are for eq'ing the whole mix and that is what they really rock at IMVerVeryHO (IMVVHO).

 

[David Artis]

Re: d) None of the above

I'd say neither are terribly important in the recording stage....... if you've done you job right with mic selection and placement.............

Gotta go withe this. An awful lot of issues can be resolved with the correct use of mics and their placement.

David

 

[Neve]

The performance in front of the mic is the most important of all aspects of recording.
I rather record a great musician with a cheap mic, crappy micpre into an blackface adat, than having a lousy performer into a vintage Neve, recording to the best recording medium money can buy.....

Amund

 

[ColdAsh]

The performance in front of the mic is the most important of all aspects of recording.
I rather record a great musician with a cheap mic, crappy micpre into an blackface adat, than having a lousy performer into a vintage Neve, recording to the best recording medium money can buy.....

Amund

This may be true but its realy getting of the topic.

 

[littledog]

I rather record a great musician with a cheap mic, crappy micpre into an blackface adat, than having a lousy performer into a vintage Neve, recording to the best recording medium money can buy.....

Amund

Maybe you'll change your mind about that when it comes time to resell...

 

[ColdAsh]

Maybe you'll change your mind about that when it comes time to resell...

My point is that i'm going to have the same vocalist for the recordings and i cant change whether hes great or not. It's the preamp i can change. Also i'll be using the preamp to record my pod a fair bit so is EQ likely to be more neccesary here (seing as though i cant change my mic position and the pods eq isnt perfect)