effects loop

[StudioMxpx]

i never used one before..so how do i route it? i tried using it before And i got a lot of fedback so how do i hook it up? i have a Mesaboogie dual rect

 

[goodbyebluesky]

i never used one before..so how do i route it? i tried using it before And i got a lot of fedback so how do i hook it up? i have a Mesaboogie dual rect

What are you putting in the fx loop that gave you feedback?
Effects loops are best for time based effects like delay, chorus..... or modulation effects like flanger or phase.
The fx loop puts them in the signal chain AFTER the preamp stage and before the power amp. Just run a cable from the fx loop "send" into your effects and run a cable out from the effects into the fx loop "return". Bada bing, bada boom.
Putting anything in your fx loop like an amp modeler or distortion will sound bad, because your cascading one preamp into another. Any type of boost/overdrive/distortion belongs in FRONT of the amp.

 

[flamin-gitaur]

It is usually better to run your effects processors thru a loop in order to keep the signal from breaking down in the chain of things. Basically all you have to do is run a cable out of your premap effects loop out=> into your effect processors input=>effects processor output=>effects loop input on the pre. Plus you can MIX (usually, depending on the preamp) the dry signal with the wet before it goes out of the pre.

 

[StarvingEyes]

so i should be running the 7+pedals i use through the effects loop? whats the difference? one more time couldn't hurt, i didnt catch it.

 

[heroics321]

If you throw modulation and delay based effects in front of the amp, you end up distorting the delayed sound, distorting the flanged sound, etc. It's not too noticable while playing clean, but once you hit the distortion, it can really muddy up the sound. My rule of thumb is that only volume based effects and distortions/overdrives are ever really happy in front. My boss tremolo is funny... depending on my amp settings, sometimes it's better suited in front, sometimes I like it in the loop.

 

[flamin-gitaur]

so i should be running the 7+pedals i use through the effects loop? whats the difference? one more time couldn't hurt, i didnt catch it.

By running things thru the loop, you are keeping the signal within the pre amp, so there is less signal loss. Then when your sig comes out of the preamp it is stronger and/or cleaner than if you were to come drirectly out of the chain. Every time there is a connection or break in the signal, there is gonna be some signal break down, so the more pedals you have in the chain the more signal loss. Try staging your pedals in different parts of the chain, wether it be in the loop or not to see what "sounds" better. Keep in mind that one or two pedals may not make a big difference, but one you start chaining several it will.


PS> This is one reason that a good effects processor will outperform a chain of pedals. because you are only introducing one piece of hardware instead of several. And when you think about it, by the time you add up the cost of pedals, you could easily pay for a decent effects processor.

 

[heroics321]

PS> This is one reason that a good effects processor will outperform a chain of pedals. because you are only introducing one piece of hardware instead of several. And when you think about it, by the time you add up the cost of pedals, you could easily pay for a decent effects processor.

Just my opinion, but that statement is kind of broad. Well designed pedals with true bypass will usually yield better tone (whether they're on or not) than a single processor. With digital processors, you're adding extra steps with a/d/a conversion and sometimes shotty software (unless we're talking your high-level TC Electronics Units and the like). For the price? Most likely better than a bunch of cheap pedals. But if you have the money or already have the pedals, buying some digital floor unit would be a latteral move at best... money better spent on good cables, batteries, and smokes.

 

[flamin-gitaur]

Just my opinion, but that statement is kind of broad. Well designed pedals with true bypass will usually yield better tone (whether they're on or not) than a single processor. With digital processors, you're adding extra steps with a/d/a conversion and sometimes shotty software (unless we're talking your high-level TC Electronics Units and the like). For the price? Most likely better than a bunch of cheap pedals. But if you have the money or already have the pedals, buying some digital floor unit would be a latteral move at best... money better spent on good cables, batteries, and smokes.

Right on brotha!!

 

[StarvingEyes]

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