editors, sequencers, samplers...

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Actually, FruityLoops, Buzz, and Orion classify themselves as trackers, it's not my classification. And calling Fruity a "beats program" is not correct. There is nothing in Fruity that requires you to create a "beat." In fact, I've used it just create synth loops or ambience loops, with no drums whatsoever, and there are several included sample songs that take the same approach. It's a sample-playback system that incorporates built in sound generators (softsynths) and allows you to create patterns and songs, but it's far beyond any drum machine or "beats program" I've ever seen.

The most obvious difference between a "sampler" and a program like Acid or CoolEdit that can "handle loops" is that a sampler is designed to play back samples using some sort of input, e.g. MIDI. So you can set up your sampler to play back a piano sample of middle C, and then by pressing the C# key, it will speed the sample up a little bit so it sounds as a C#. In a program like CoolEdit, getting that to happen requires actually physically pitching the sample up. Try to play a 2-bar 16th note run in a sampler using a piano multisample, and it's pretty easy. Try to manually create the same thing in CoolEdit, and I'll see you next June.
 
Let me try and make things very clear for all of you;

Samplers are things you can sample with

Editors are things you can edit with

Sequencers are things you use for sequencing

Loopers are things you loop with, and the things you loop can either be samples or wavs or any other bit of audio, and you can also loop within a sequencer, you can even loop in a sampler. Hell, you can even loop de loop, which was a dance in the '60's, so looping has been around a longtime. I think Sam the Sham and the Pharaos looped, amongs other loopers, and when they looped people all over the world started looping, until they were all looped out and started using sequencers.

Trackers are people who have lost something in the woods and try and find it again by looking at footprints, which is why it is so important to know exactly how big each piece of gear you use is, because if you loose something like that in a forest, or even a wood (also a plain they say, but I don't get that because a plain is flat, unless they mean something that's just unattractive), you can get a tracker to sniff it out. Apparently there has been interbreeding over the ages between dogs and people occupied with tracking, therefore the expression sniffing it out. It is advised whenever you buy some new gear to first make a print of the footprint in clay, and then sample the smell for the trackers so they can sniff it. Of cause, you make the samples with a sampler, so the main use of samplers is to make sure nothing gets lost, and when it gets lost a tracker uses the sampler's sample and the footprint to track it.

Recorders you find in city halls and in studios, their quality and accuracy varies a lot. Indians were known to be very good trackers and it is therefore amazing there are not more indians working in studios. Being good trackers didn't benefit them, if they had been inclined to do the opposite of tracking and had been more inclined to hiding instead of tracking nobody would have found them easily, so they would not have been tracked and more of them would have survived to work as trackers in studios and sound would have been better. On the other side if they had been hiders instead of trackers they might not have been good trackers after all, so I take back what I said.

I hope this helps and you understand the difference better. 'Coz thats where its at, understanding differences. Thats because if you didn't get differences, then everything would be the same and all sound would just be one noise, so you wouldn't need samplers, coz you'd know the noise already anyway.


PS. The problem with many cheaper programs and some integrated MIDI / recording programmes is latency. Big problem. u:
 
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sjoko2 said:
Let me try and make things very clear for all of you;

Samplers are things you can sample with

Editors are things you can edit with

Sequencers are things you use for sequencing

Loopers are things you loop with, and the things you loop can either be samples or wavs or any other bit of audio, and you can also loop within a sequencer, you can even loop in a sampler. Hell, you can even loop de loop, which was a dance in the '60's, so looping has been around a longtime. I think Sam the Sham and the Pharaos looped, amongs other loopers, and when they looped people all over the world started looping, until they were all looped out and started using sequencers.

Trackers are people who have lost something in the woods and try and find it again by looking at footprints, which is why it is so important to know exactly how big each piece of gear you use is, because if you loose something like that in a forest, or even a wood (also a plain they say, but I don't get that because a plain is flat, unless they mean something that's just unattractive), you can get a tracker to sniff it out. Apparently there has been interbreeding over the ages between dogs and people occupied with tracking, therefore the expression sniffing it out. It is advised whenever you buy some new gear to first make a print of the footprint in clay, and then sample the smell for the trackers so they can sniff it. Of cause, you make the samples with a sampler, so the main use of samplers is to make sure nothing gets lost, and when it gets lost a tracker uses the sampler's sample and the footprint to track it.

Recorders you find in city halls and in studios, their quality and accuracy varies a lot. Indians were known to be very good trackers and it is therefore amazing there are not more indians working in studios. Being good trackers didn't benefit them, if they had been inclined to do the opposite of tracking and had been more inclined to hiding instead of tracking nobody would have found them easily, so they would not have been tracked and more of them would have survived to work as trackers in studios and sound would have been better. On the other side if they had been hiders instead of trackers they might not have been good trackers after all, so I take back what I said.

I hope this helps and you understand the difference better. 'Coz thats where its at, understanding differences. Thats because if you didn't get differences, then everything would be the same and all sound would just be one noise, so you wouldn't need samplers, coz you'd know the noise already anyway.


PS. The problem with many cheaper programs and some integrated MIDI / recording programmes is latency. Big problem. u:
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I just tracked my edit with my mouse in sequence from top to bottem, sampled it, mastered it and copied it on the PC
 
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