Echo AudioFire 12 OR RME Fireface 400

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No problem, I tend not to put my input in unless I have first hand experience.

BTW, you had compared the sound of your Echo to your friends 96/52, but there's no conversion in a 96/52, its all digital. What was his front end for conversion? That would make your comparison more valid.

There are add on cards that give you analog inputs or outputs.

Its not that I think Echo is bad, I just dont think its as good as RME.
Exactly.
 
Sorry, typo. I meant to say Echo interfaces. And I didn't say they weren't stable, I said I was underwhelmed, but I will add that I don't feel that they are nearly as solid as the RME drivers which are rock-solid.

Gotcha. What issues did you have with the stability and drivers?

Just curious because this isn't something I've read, heard much of or experienced myself in regards to Echo interfaces.

EDIT 9/21: Sorry, you didn't say they weren't stable...but if they are not as solid as the RME drivers, what does that mean? What differentiates the two in terms of real world use? Does the RME provide for lower latencties? Not trying to be ridiculous, just wondering what your experience is with them not being as solid. Did you experience crashes? I've been using a Layla 3G with Sonar and it's been working wonderfully for me.

I'm still contemplating an RME interface someday.
 
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There are add on cards that give you analog inputs or outputs.

Yep, they're called audio expansion boards. I have 1 four channel input board and one four channel output board in my PC with my old hamerfall 9632.

Look, I think that RME makes wonderful products. It's just that the af12 met my current needs and budget. I don't look at a soundcard as a long term investment--like a microphone, preamp or guitar. I just buy what fits my needs because I figure it will probably be obsolete in 4 years as computer technology changes.

I've already got the hammerfall if I ever needed adat input/output streams, but for $579 the af12 was a no brainer for use on my mac rig with logic studio.
 
I tend to feel that, for what you get, RME products tend to be somewhat over-rated.

If I was paying like good money to rent a studio, and all they had was an RME interface ... I might be like "Is that the best they can do?" I mean, I might as well just be using the Audiofire. Not like there's any immediately obvious audible differences separating them.

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Interesting. We have systems built for Madonna, U2, Aerosmith, Mark Knopfler and many others that all have RME cards at their foundation. Good enough for them, good enough for me I think. Just my opinion of course.

...And I use MOTU gear in my personal studio. :)
 
BTW, you had compared the sound of your Echo to your friends 96/52, but there's no conversion in a 96/52, its all digital. What was his front end for conversion? That would make your comparison more valid.

I'd have to ask him again what I was listening to! I know at one point early on, he was tracking to a Alesis HD-24 and transferring the tracks via ADAT. He's using a Presonus Central Station for DA (which sounds marvelous to my ears).
 
What linux application would you use? Energy XT2?

Now that they are adding some serious Midi capabilities to it I am very interested in Ardour.
http://ardour.org/

I'm really digging the anything to anywhere patching scheme too.

BTW, I did receive a reply to my email I sent to Echo. The person informed me that most of their PCI card interfaces are compatible with Linux. Which is nice to know but apparently even he didn't know where the hardware is made because he chose not to answer that question.

I plan to also contact FFADO and see if there is any news regarding the progress on the AudioFire drivers.

Thanks to Chessrock for the input and the samples!
 
BTW, I did receive a reply to my email I sent to Echo. The person informed me that most of their PCI card interfaces are compatible with Linux. Which is nice to know but apparently even he didn't know where the hardware is made because he chose not to answer that question.

FWIW, I've owned 5 Echo interfaces (all probably made China or wherever) and none of them gave me any trouble or lacked in quality over all my use.

If you do end up with an Echo interface, you shouldn't be dissapointed.
 
Thanks warble 2 and the rest of you. I appreciate all the helpful input on the subject. I am really leaning towards Echo now I have heard good things from you all and also received a rather quick reply to the email I sent them. I'm somewhat impressed that they would answer my email at all considering I don't even own a product by them.

I've found that my current sound card (1010LT) actually works quite well in Linux so I'll be using it for a little longer. At least until I see that the AudioFire drivers for Linux have been completed. I'll just have to leave the cover off of my new slimline to accommodate the card.

In regard to the Linux conversion, I'll be attempting the install this weekend. My friend and I already tested it out at work today. We used a Gentoo distro and then installed Ardour for a test drive. It was really easy and worked right away no problems. The plan is to build the new computer for dual boot with Windows. Once I'm comfortable with the new software environment I'll just stop using all the old Windows stuff.

Ardour was really impressive. I found it quite intuitive, well conceived and responsive. The user interface is a dream to use and very easy on the eyes. I think I was drooling the whole time. I'm looking forward to using it every day.

I'll post a new thread about my experiences with Ardour at a later date.
 
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