E-MU card hell

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I just recently bought a E-MU 0404 and installed it.for some odd reason when i try to record in Sonar to test it out...all i get is a constantly clipped meter and noise. However, the signal plays fine through the E-MU's DSP program (the most useless and terribly designed piece of software). Is there something i need to change in my settings?? I am just running a guitar straight into the card just to test out that it is working and to configure it. I will be running a new behringer 1204fx-pro mixer into it (as soon as UPS brings it). I would appreciate any help i can get. A friend has this card and it sounds good for the price, but i have no clue how to get it to play nice with Sonar.
 
Could it be simply because i wasnt running a preamp on the guitar? just a straight les paul? Maybe the E-MU DSP program has its own virtual preamp thus making the signal clear and not just a bunch of noise? would that matter at all?
 
So, you're connecting the guitar straight to the line in of the 0404? That's gotta sound like shit. I'd say that's why you're getting clipping and noise. Wait for your mixer. Otherwise you're just wasting your time. Also, to run a direct guitar you need a di box.
 
well it was coming out of my digitech RP100 pedal...and yes i didnt expect it to be hifi..but i was getting no sound at all...just constant 100% noise. However if i opened th eEMU program it was playing the guitar fine...could it be settings in sonar?
 
You think it's bad now? ...wait till you get that behringer mixer in the chain and the noise starts.

You need a DI box to record guitar straight in

The more you spend the better it gets. I get by with a Countryman Type 85 FET direct box YMMV
 
Have you profiled the sound card in Sonar?
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yup thats my guess too, might be how sync or drivers are setup. IIRC, you choose the ASIO profile in patchmix and choose the same driver in Sonar (or at least was that way for cubase). The software for those is pretty cryptic but once you have your head around it, they are pretty good cards.

As far as a DI box, you can get a Soundcraft compact 4 (4 channel mixer) that has just about every input type imaginable plus a record bus for a c note
 
well i actually got the berry in the mail today and hooked it up. turns out that the driver bit depth was at 24 bit and that was causing problems. another problem i noticed though is that it wont let me select 96k in patchmix as a sampling rate..only 41k and 48k.....the card is supposed to be 24 bit 96k..any idea why this is like that? thanks for all of the help guys.
 
I just got the EMU 0404 and I had the same trouble. I found this pdf file for ya that may help answer the question of switching between 44, 48, 96, 192 etc...

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The Session
The current state of the PatchMix DSP mixer (fader settings, effects routings…everything!)
can be saved as a Session. Whenever you create or modify a mixer setup, all you
have to do is Save it to be able to recall it at a later time.
Before you begin using PatchMix DSP, you need to set it up to be compatible with the
other software applications you may be running. The most important consideration is
your system sample rate. PatchMix DSP and any applications or other digital gear you
are using must be set to the same sample rate. PatchMix DSP can run at 44.1kHz,
48kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4 kHz or 192kHz sample rates, but the effect processors
are only available at the 44.1kHz or 48kHz rates.
When you start a new PatchMix DSP Session, the first choice you make is to select the
sample rate. Once set, you can only easily switch between 44.1kHz and 48kHz. You
cannot switch between 44/48kHz and 88k/96k/176k/192k. With a change to these
high sample rates, you must start a new session.
________________________________________________________________

Also you can DL this pdf here:
media.zzounds.com/media/0404_1.81B_EN-5c89896f87d48881136fc2e2155c36f6.pdf
________________________________________________________________

Good Luck :)
 
That helped alot..i now know how to change the sample rates, but once i change to 96k any mp3s or such that are playing cut off. is that because they cannot be played back at this sample rate? only things initially recorded and saved at that rate can be played back? until they are changed to 44.1k?? am i even close? sorry im new to all of this.
 
thats right you cant play back 96k files with 44.1 as you samlpe rate. I dont think any ausio interface cant do that either. with that card you need a preamp. I really dont understand any porblems anyone has with this card. mine worked right away. installed it pluged guitar to mixer, from mixer bus out. to emu0404 in, opened cubase, started 24 track project, opened control panel, selected inputs on the vst input, adjusted levels and hit record and it recorded the firsttime I hit record. I really dont see the problem anyone has had with this card. even the the default session on patch mix worked for me. Sonar may be another issue. also try the ASIO drivers.
 
the main problem i have is with the DSP patchmix software...they spent more time on making it look cool to make people feel like they are using expensive equipment instead of just making it logical and functional. i think i got it all situated though...thanks for the help guys.
 
Actually, I found PatchMix extremely logical. Yes, there is a learning curve, but that is true for anything non-trivial.

You do know that there are a number of supplied sessions, one of which might have done the job for you?
 
The manual is a good place to start to understand how to use it
Some say you need to be a sound engineer to be able to use the patchmix. Well not really. If you don’t understand how a mixer works and its terminology then you may find the instructions difficult to understand. But I found the manual very useful.
 
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